Lexi: The establishment of the Indonesia - Australia Red Meat and Cattle Forum - a $60 million ten year initiative to boost investment in the Red Meat agri business sector in Indonesia will be good for
Australian beef industry, good for Indonesian investors and good also for consumers. The NT's Cattlemen's Association welcomed the support for increased live export quotas.

Another $6M a year gift to the 7th. most financially secure nation in the World soon to be the 5th. They should be doing that not us.

Indonesia is laughing at us all the way down to the dock to wave off the illegal immigrants they don't want staying in their country. They already have enough Muslims & Australia only has 2.4%. They want to increase that percentage by 20000 a year so Australia will be forced to eventually become a Muslim Caliphate.

SM,

Not empty handed at all.
Things may not change overnight
but this is about building foundations
that can be built on.

Achievements are hammered out on the anvil
of discussion and debate. And the NT's
Cattlemen Association welcomed the support for
increased live export quotas. It's good for
the Australian Beef Industry.

Dear Jayb,

As I stated earlier things may not change overnight -
but this is about building foundations that can
be built on.

Lexi,

What a pile of rubbish. This was a meeting to arrange further meetings.

The only thing that has changed over night is that the number of boats and deaths at sea has increased rapidly after the abolition of the Pacific solution.

I still say its appeasement

Lexi,

The link only shows figures up to 2010. since then it would show a far steeper curve over this last 3 year.
Our population is spread out over a vast area, and in urgent need of updating already inadequate facilities, i.e. hospital beds, doctors etc. road and rail congestion, kids in temporary school buildings, [and the list goes on] for which we don't have the money!

Having seen photos of the camps for migrants, how can we say their conditions are cruel? They have food, water, accommodation, recreational facilities, cigarettes, internet and t.v. provided.How many people here have air conditioning units which I noticed in the camp photos, and which I would presume we provide free electricity for? In other photos I have seen temporary tent accommodation which had to be hastily erected for the unexpected surge of arrivals. In the mainland camps here it's no different than ordinary housing. So it's a more communal living. Well so are our mining camps up North, and we don't have them rioting, burning their accommodation, and going on hunger strikes. On top of that, they fight each other too because they still can't let go of their tribal politics and religion.

If these people were genuine refugees, why would they object to being so well catered for? Is it fair to those of us who work hard to keep doling out money to them and to the detriment of our own needy?
These migrants keep coming because word is sent back to them via free phone calls and wireless internet just how good they can have it here. Anyone who thinks differently needs to know this is a fact, and I have personal knowledge that this happens.
Sorry Lexi, to me that is just one more biased article I've read using old figures to prove his point. I could go on picking holes in it, but time forbids me at the moment.

onthebeach in an answer to Poirot you go close to proving your personal bias is leaving no room for the truth.
And clearly in degenerating Rudd unfairly show your inability to see Abbott as he is.
As an Abbott fan do you too, as he does want the boats to continue to come?