# 21 and bingo ! Nothing on-topic. Nada. Niente. Dipote. Niemals. Rien. Want to try for # 22, Poirot ?

Hi Belly,

Yes, what to do ? Forty million people, overwhelmingly innocent of doing anything particularly wrong, except to be from the wrong groups in the eyes of those in power in their home-countries. Forty million. All wanting to either go back home to a peaceful country or, if that's impossible, go to another peaceful country. Like Australia.

Some problems don't have easy solutions. Some don't have solutions at all, in the real world. But one of our problems is that, no matter what our annual humanitarian refugee intake might be, there will always be more who want to take the risks of coming here by leaky boat, to jump the queue.

So what to do, to encourage people to 'wait their turn', in dreadfully inadequate camps and hell-holes ?

Most certainly, to treat people with respect, as fellow human beings, and make sure that they are safe and healthy. And then, perhaps, put them on a plane back to their country of departure, with all the advice they need to apply properly, and to get into line behind all those who have done just that, and have been waiting for years.

Some stories don't have happy endings.

Joe

Loudmouth: # 21 and bingo ! Nothing on-topic. Nada. Niente. Dipote. Niemals. Rien. Want to try for # 22, Poirot ?

Ditto. Ever get the feeling you've got the wrong end of the stick, poirot.

I would sink a few boats, but that's just me. Withdraw the patrol Boats to within 200 K's of the Australian Mainland. We have no business being that far away from the mainland anyway.

Maybe a graphic video of just what they can expect when they get to Australia. Permanent detention for years, Sewn up mouths, going nuts, drowning, Christians, Women driving & walking on their own, Bondi beach & the Gold Coast, WTF, nude beaches. Not the sort of place a good jih.. errr Muslim would want to be associated with.

Well the talk fest in Indo is over & just as I thought, nothing. It's all just BS.

<Well the talk fest in Indo is over & just as I thought, nothing. It's all just BS>

Kevin13 is coming home with lighter pockets. Sorry, the Australian taxpayers have lighter pockets.

Kevin Rudd has certainly proven himself an able
diplomat as his recent visit to Indonesia clearly
showed. In a relatively short time the man has managed
to discuss the problem of asylum seekers with Indonesia
and although things may not change over night -
this is about building foundations that can be built on
in the future. Plus the NT's Cattlemen's Association
welcomed the support for increased live export quotas.
This came about with the establisment of the Indonesia-
Australia Red Meat and Cattle Forum - a $60 million
10 year initiative - to boost investment
in the Red Meat agri business sector in Indonesia.
Which will be good for the Australian beef industry,
good for Indonesian ivnestments and good also for
consumers.

Not bad for a man who's only been back in power for
a week.

onthebeach,

I've just come across your earlier post directed to
me again, where you assert that I made some
"false" allegations against Bob Carr , and the government.
I'd like to once again clarify this for you.
I did not such thing. I merely repeated Mr
Carr's own statements as I tried to explain
to you several times.
Mr Carr made those statements
concerning the government on the ABC's Lateline
program the night that Mr Rudd was re-elected as
PM. He's also made those statements on other programs
and in the newspapers. A "tougher, hard-edged assessment,"
were words used by him as the following link confirms:

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/no-advantage-in-allowing-carr-to-fan-asylum-flames-20130705-2phcr.html

Lexi,

<<Kevin Rudd has certainly proven himself an able diplomat as his recent visit to Indonesia clearly showed. In a relatively short time the man has managed to DISCUSS (DISCUSS!) (DISCUSS!) (DISCUSS!) the problem of asylum seekers with Indonesia>>

ROFLAO x 100

SPQR,

Well that's a bit more than Abbott managed to do when he had the opportunity.

"Failed to raise the matter", I believe is the general consensus.

How does one work through challenges and reach agreement without serious engagement?