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What Does Mr Abbott Stand For?
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Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 4 July 2013 12:16:44 PM
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Shadow Minister>> There is a huge difference between BOF not doing everything you feel he promised on CSG, and the blatant lying of Juliar in abandoning a iron clad guarantee, and back flipping on just about every fundamental promise.<<
I have never contradicted or discounted your comments on the current incompetent Labor mob. I have shot at Wobbles, Belly, Poirot, Lexi, Paul and a host of other posters for being welded on’s. If you cannot see the moral liability of politicians to enact what they have pledged is unilateral, that no one party owns it, we will never have accountable government in Australia. The CSG promises were big SM, How would you like a corporation to run freehold over the land you own? O'Farrell promised to halt new mining applications and review the ones for renewal, but a few week in and he granted and renewed licenses. The only positive thing he has done is haul back on spending and pay some of our debt….but that’s his job and gets paid plenty to do it. Posted by sonofgloin, Thursday, 4 July 2013 12:46:30 PM
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Lexi,
It is clear that you have no maths, science or accounting background, for if you did, you would realise that the 3 opinion pieces you linked are devoid of fact, and those they do provide are wildly unrelated. For example the pacific solution applied specifically to the boats, and the opinion piece gives no boat figures at all. The reality is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BoatArrivals.gif Which clearly shows that the pacific solution worked to stop the boats and its removal started them. Even KRudd has been forced to eat crow and admit it. As for the GFC, every country with a significant mining base fared far better than most in surviving the GFC. However, no one in the coalition has ever claimed that there should not be stimulus, the criticism of Labor is that it was poorly targeted, extremely wasteful, and most of the spending occurred well after the stimulus was no longer required. As for your criticism of Andrew Bolt, his accuracy far exceeds most of the New Matilda or IA cretins you love to quote. SOG, Firstly the CSG issue was only ever a peripheral issue issue for BOF, and as far as CSG is concerned BOF has gone further than any other premier in AUS. Considering that in Aus as in any other country, for more than a century, land owners have never owned the minerals below, and have always been required to give reasonable access to those wishing to exploit the minerals. This includes payment for access, and so far more than 90% of land holders have been more than happy with the compensation. Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 4 July 2013 3:50:40 PM
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SM,
I must be a sucker for punishment. Because I keep responding to your posts despite their nonsense. Try this link on for size: http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/australias-problem-with-racism/ It does deal with "boat people." Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 4 July 2013 7:11:34 PM
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Shadow Minister>> Considering that in Aus as in any other country, for more than a century, land owners have never owned the minerals below, and have always been required to give reasonable access to those wishing to exploit the minerals.<<
That’s exactly right SM, I should have expanded the point. The fracking process atop water tables and on some of the most arable land we have is the issue, not mining per say. O’Farrell made commitments to duty of care and then turned his back on them. I cannot overlook the lies, you can placate them by calling them peripheral commitments but he and his shadow resources minister met with anti CSG groups and promised them the known world, but they were lies. Posted by sonofgloin, Thursday, 4 July 2013 7:39:19 PM
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sonofgloin,
Perhaps "peripheral commitments" are in the same category as "non-core promises". After all, we are talking about Libs here, Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 4 July 2013 8:00:24 PM
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http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3886792.html
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/the-dirt-on-dodging-the-gfc-20100531-wr5e.html
http://theaimn.com/2013/01/19/never/
It's always good to read from a variety of sources.
Gives one a more informed overview than simply
the extremely narrow, predictable and strident views
presented in the MSM.
BTW: What qualifications do either Alan Jones or
Andrew Bolt possess? Both need to take a
course in "Journalism 101," because of the factual
errors and misrepresentations their views contain.
the MSM.