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What Does Mr Abbott Stand For?

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Dear me, does anybody see the contradiction in saying "he's an obsessive micro-manager who everyone hates" and "he can't make decisions, he ahs to coinsult with everyone"?

In his first term he faced a hostile caucus controlled by a man who had a gun to the head of the most obvious successor and only let Rudd in because he knew Gillard couldn't beat Howard. That no longer applies.

This will be a very different PM to the one we saw last time.
Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 1 July 2013 9:33:57 PM
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sonofgloin,

The key word in Global Financial Crisis, I suggest, would be "Global".

Of course, it wouldn't occur to you that your Australian examples were "because" of the "timely" action taken to stimulate the economy.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 1 July 2013 9:37:34 PM
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Antiseptic>> This will be a very different PM to the one we saw last time.<<

Anti , Rudd won’t win this year, but what caught my interest on his return was that some of the first rhetoric to come from his mouth concerned a “reformation” (my word) of the Party. If all he does is bring the party back to a point where greedy bastards like Obeid and MacDonald were the pariahs, not the norm, he's done enough for Australia.
Posted by sonofgloin, Monday, 1 July 2013 9:43:35 PM
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sonofgloin,

"...Rudd won't win this year..."

It's pretty hard to get your heads around that possibility, isn't it?

http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/morgan-poll-july1-2013-201307010635

What difference a week makes.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 1 July 2013 9:52:53 PM
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Poirot, "What difference a week makes"

As the honeymoon wears off the bounce will be lost.

Buyer's Remorse will set in as voters recall the scandals, waste and high taxes, and the internal disunity that festers below the surface.

Spin didn't work for Whitlam and it will not work for Rudd.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 1 July 2013 10:22:49 PM
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Poirot>> sonofgloin,

The key word in Global Financial Crisis, I suggest, would be "Global". Of course, it wouldn't occur to you that your Australian examples were "because" of the "timely" action taken to stimulate the economy<<

P, I understand the term “global” it fitted the collapse because all nations trade. But it did not affect Australia to any great degee. Our GDP hardly moved
2008 1,034-2009 976- 2010 1,244- 2011 1,541-2012 2013 1,589- Billions

Re Australia, we have a unique domestic economy, we are scattered in population bursts like flies around a plate. Small and medium businesses can’t trade across borders like the northern hemisphere; we have a “closed” domestic economy when compared to the northern hemisphere.

As the numbers indicate P, 2009 was more brutal than 2007/2008. I certainly recall clients remarking exactly that.

Re the stimulus that was handed directly to the taxpayer, as I said that went on imports.

Re the stimulus via the BER and Pink Batts, most of that was stolen, the local bloke got crumbs at below market rate and the likes of the now bankrupt Reid Group got everybody’s share.
Posted by sonofgloin, Monday, 1 July 2013 10:33:44 PM
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