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West Papua and Bob Carr's deception

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Should Australia do anything about West Papua?
Should we trust Bob Carr ?
Has the Indonesian occupation of West Papua been adversely affecting Australian health, and has it been adversely affecting the prosperity of our region for fifty years?

West Papua is a victim of the United Nations. The US in 1962 coerced Holland and Indonesia to sign an agreement for UN administration of West Papua, which can be done if the General Assembly approves an agreement under Chapter XII of the Charter of the United Nations to subject a colony to the Trusteeship System. Secretary General U Thant added the "New York Agreement" to the agenda of the General Assembly where Australia and 88 others approved the UN administration in resolution 1752 (XVII); _but_ he did not add resolution 1752 to the agenda of the Trusteeship Council.

So for 51 years the Trusteeship Council has not been "officially" told about resolution 1752 (XVII), and so the UN has not been monitoring conditions inside the UN colony as required by articles 87 and 88 of the UN Charter.

Australia at any time can add resolution 1752 (XVII) to the UN Trusteeship Council agenda; and likely the Council would ask the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to give advice on the legal status of West Papua, which would allow the UN to be neutral as it begins asking Indonesia questions about it's administration of the colony on behalf of the United Nations.

But Bob Carr says otherwise, at the Senate Estimates hearing on 5 June Bob Carr accused Australians who rise the Morning Star flag of West Papua of playing a "cruel deceit by self-indulgent people safe in their own beds, safe in a democracy". He said only he and not other Australians should rise questions about West Papua, and that he accepts "Indonesian sovereignty over the territories as a matter of international law." Whose telling the truth, Bob Carr or resolution 1752 (XVII)?
Posted by Daeron, Thursday, 20 June 2013 12:31:21 PM
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You need to remember Australia is a puppet to America for most things.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 20 June 2013 2:12:04 PM
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Bob Carr is a friend of Henry Kissenger who is a Globalist and supporter of Agenda 21.The Macquarie Bank made Bob an offer he could not refuse.

I think our Western De-mockracy is rotten to the core.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 20 June 2013 5:13:48 PM
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Has the Indonesian occupation of West Papua been adversely affecting Australian health
Daeron,
Has the British occupation of Australia been adversely affecting indigenous Australian health ?
Posted by individual, Thursday, 20 June 2013 6:29:16 PM
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Interesting question. I dug around before replying and listened to an interview with Bob Carr here: http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/international/radio/program/pacific-beat/west-papua-backers-raising-false-hopes-carr/1142390

I can't find where he indicates that he and only he should raise questions - did I miss it in the interview or is it elsewhere?

It smacks of the same sort of arrogance I see in Bob Carr that sickens me. Has he forgotten that he is unelected? We didn't choose him as our representative (yes, enough chose Labor on the Senate ticket for the Laborites to impose whatever sort of person they want on us), so I certainly don't accept any assertion that he has a right to speak on behalf of me.
Posted by Otokonoko, Thursday, 20 June 2013 10:11:44 PM
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'individual' asked "Has the British occupation of Australia been adversely affecting indigenous Australian health ?"

The British occupation in the 18th century probably killed 90% of the indigenous people with small-pox and other diseases; the Indonesian occupation of West Papua has afflicted the wild boar population with tapeworms and other parasites, Indonesia introduced HIV/AIDS via infected prostitutes, its health system has produced resistant forms of TB, and Indonesia has killed hundreds of thousands of people during its efforts to repress their calls for self-determination.

Flying foxes and other animals are transporting diseases across the border to PNG and to the Australian mainland.

So yes I would say Indonesian occupation has been and would continue to be bad news for Australia if it is allowed to continued instead of adding resolution 1752 (XVII) to the agenda of the Trusteeship Council so that the de-colonization process resumes.
Posted by Daeron, Thursday, 20 June 2013 10:31:58 PM
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