chrisgaff1000 - My understanding is that post election Julie is seeking Kevin Rudd's seat in the United Nations

Presumably you mean JooLIAR AKA the red-headed witch ?? I sincerely hope your are mistaken although it would be exactly the kind of low act typical of that creature. Should it eventuate, we'll need to have selected a gubmunt with the smarts to bail out of every United Nations agreement the witch saddled us with. Just imagine having got rid of the Medusa it returns to haunt us again !! Perish the thought.

Praxidice>> Imagine if the clowns suddenly admitted they have f**ed up big time, accepted total responsibility, promised faithfully to make amends by listening to the sheeple hereafter<<

Praxi, that is what I thought she said in the 2010 election...or words to that effect such as "smash the people smugglers model" and other half admissions couched in "we have learnt our lesson" jargon.

sonofgloin - that is what I thought she said in the 2010 election...or words to that effect such as "smash the people smugglers model" and other half admissions couched in "we have learnt our lesson" jargon.

Yeah I think you are right, I'd forgotten that far back :( Seems red-headed witches never learn. That said, if the numbskulled clowns in caucus had half a clue, they would have given the witch, the dying duck & the wong wun their marching orders years ago. Oh wait, the caucus mob are a tribe of senile old fuddy duddies who lost their marbles after the great flood ..... hmmmmm

I guess any intelligent life, if there is such in the ALP, could always move over to the DLP. There is at least one sentient lifeform there if the story in todays Sydney Morning Herald is any indication.

Juliar did "smash the people smugglers model" only trouble is it went from relatively efficient to now highly efficient approx 3,000 per month.

Don't worry Juliar I am sure there are enough fools left in Altona to have you retain your seat not sure about the rest of the country.

I suspect only a few hours to go before we see Julia stabbed in the back.

ozzie - I suspect only a few hours to go before we see Julia stabbed in the back.

I've been hearing that from reasonably reliable sources for a few weeks, seems the witch manages to hang on despite being almost universally despised. Whether or not a change of leadership is sufficient to save the day is another question although I'd dearly love to see the wind taken out of the RAbbotts sails. As always, my sincere hope is for both of them to get a serious slap in the face come September. Dunno why the Greens can't see an opportunity here.