SPQR,

And a Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraspberry to you.

One gets bored of reading the hackneyed spiel of all the fearful and hysterical bunnies on this forum.

Ho hum.........

Thanks for jumping in, SPQR. Trying to get a point across to Philip S is like talking to a Telstra call centre.

>>What hasn’t “sunk into” Pericles head is that your concerns have little to do with “fear” and much to do with:
1) Our right to be told the truth, and
2) Our right to control our borders<<

Well yes, if that was as far as it went, I would have no issue, since I am in favour of both the above. But the lasting impression given in the first two posts in the thread was of a red-faced blowhard holding an overworked dog-whistle. It has been edifying - and not a little amusing, to tell the truth - to witness the subsequent scramble to hide that dog-whistle, and the attempts to say "who, me?" when accused of rabble-rousing.

>>Yes , and the most important of those standards is to report the full story –not hide or edit it (for political purposes. <<

So where, I wonder, did Philip S get his information in the first place? Where did those "2 stories within the last 24 hours" to which our attention was drawn, come from? Divine revelation? Oh, right...

>>You have just shot your own argument down because the FACTS came from the main stream media.<<

Exactly right. You have selected a group of facts, and put them together in a manner calculated to get a strong supportive reaction from your fellow-travellers. They are not all the facts about Australia's refugee intake, of course, just the ones that will justify the foam-flecked diatribe from your companions-in-arms.

And it is not even those facts that are under discussion, Philip S, but the fact that when you put them together in this fashion, you are deliberately setting out to instill fear and loathing in others. It might be a somewhat difficult point to grasp, I do understand, but one that you really ought to try to get your head around.

Pericles - You just can't accept the truth.

To Quote you "you are deliberately setting out to instill fear and loathing in others"

Please read the thread heading it points out about Government lies.

To Quote you "Exactly right. You have selected a group of facts, and put them together in a manner calculated to get a strong supportive reaction from your fellow-travellers."

Correct and the facts do support the thread heading that the Government lied.

To Quote you "They are not all the facts about Australia's refugee intake"

Correct again, if I included all the facts about the refugees I would have included the 85% still on welfare after being here over 5 years, the fact that there are no homeless refugees but thousands of homeless Australians. There are lots of more facts I have but they do not relate to the Thread heading.

Thank you for your time but just admit in this case you are wrong.

I would rather talk to "a Telstra call centre" than a brick wall.

Pericles,

I read things a little differently. Philip is highlighting some previously under-reported events--balancing the narrative.

If Philip was a little excited it might because he is so unaccustomed to hearing such reports. There is generally minimal to no reportage of “asylum” scammer indiscretions. When such things do get aired they are usually blamed on the police, detention centre personnel, or (Marilyn Shepherd’s favourite) a case of misreporting. As a result advocates have been able to come onto forums like this and declare that asylum scammers were as a group exemplary candidates for citizenship. Not a case of a few bad apples, but of no bad apples at all.

Plus, it is hardly likely that Philip’s obscure thread on OLO is going to become the dominant narrative and whip the “rabble” into a pogrom.There are scores & scores & scores of “asylum” scammer sympathetic sites on the internet which spout nothing but: 'asylum seekers are dear sweet little darlings'.And many “respectable” sources appear to have a policy of not carrying anything that reflects poorly on “asylum” scammers. “Our” ABC (with little exaggeration) accompanies every news story on refugee policy with a (mandatory) 3 minute spiel from a refugee advocate. While SBS runs yearly “Go Back To Where You Come From” misrepresentations interspersed with sermonmentaries about the white Australia policy.

And it is amazing how short some people’s memories are.Within a month or two of Philips post you will have the usual suspects declaring none of the indiscretions (Philip highlighted) ever happened. Likewise, within a month or two of ASIO admitting it only checks 15% of “asylum” seekers you will have the usual sources proclaiming that ALL asylum scammers are thoroughly vetted.

So, sorry, but I don’t see Philip’s posts as any great threat to OH & S.

Surely you jest, SPQR.

>>There are scores & scores & scores of “asylum” scammer sympathetic sites on the internet which spout nothing but: 'asylum seekers are dear sweet little darlings'<<

A link, perhaps?

Pericles - Why don't you start providing evidence of your claims.

While you are at it provide links to reputable media that support the inference you make the refugees are all good citizens.

When you come to read your comments you say the exact same thing lots of times, over and over again just like a broken record.

Now you can't counter my facts so where is your evidence that shows the current load of refugees are of reputable character.

Quote - "Surely you jest, SPQR" >>There are scores & scores & scores of “asylum” scammer sympathetic sites on the internet which spout nothing but: 'asylum seekers are dear sweet little darlings'<<

Do a Google search are you really that useless you can't find anything.

You will be pleased with this news HOMELESS AUSTRALIANS WON'T a suspected asylum seeker boat carrying 207 people has been intercepted north of Christmas Island.

So much for border protection.