Banjo

thought I was the most cynical poster here but you leave me for dead. Your terminology shows that.

It would be extremely difficult to argue that the ALP, the LNP or the Greens for that matter deserve anything more than the utmost contempt.

OK, you really do not expect PUP to make much inroads first up, I do not seen the same talk or support that Pauline got when she first stood. So who will you give your second preference to?

Big Clive could well surprise everyone. The few sheeple of my acquaintance who are giving the RAbbott even a fleeting thought are worried that a vote for Big Clive could help the red-headed witch. I don't know one single person who wouldn't happily stick pins in a JooLIAR doll if they knew some voodoo. I figure its a bit early to talk about preferences, however the witch & the greens are unquestionably bottom of the list. I cannot abide the RAbbott so depending on the final wash-up of preference allocations I'll have a look around before the election and decide then. Obviously I don't want even a hint of a preference going the way of the witch, as for the rest of the rabble, I'd prefer to have a gaggle of conservative rats & mice rather than the RAbbott. I've written the greens off previously as a labor appendage however I'll re-appraise them if they stop being joined at the hip to the ALP. I'm not into the gay marriage bit, the welcome mat for boat people, lobbying, cronyism, and international aid when so many Australians are hurting, consequently those issues will weigh on any second preference

to be continued

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Banjo

You have no time for the majors but one or the other WILL form government, so which one do you dislike the least.

I'm not jumping to any conclusions about the LNP. With a few months to go, Big Clive has the time and the resources to do what One Nation couldn't. From my perspective, there isn't much to choose between ALP & LNP. The red-headed witch, the dying duck & the wong wun are well past their use-by date but then we at least know what kind of evil with which we are dealing. RAbbott & Turnbull are likely to be a carbon-copy of Newman / Seeney / Nicholls, something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Personally I'd rather select a 'none of the above' option on the ballot papers than give either of the majors a vote. I don't recall ever having voted for a bunch of rats & mice before, but this time who knows ??

I guess all we can do is hope that Abbott is a Newman X 2 or 3.

If Palmer & his party is still around in another 3 years, then it will be time to think about him. This time we need someone who has some experience, & will be stable.

Hasbeen - This time we need someone who has some experience, & will be stable

The 'experience' belong RAbbott is exactly why he has no chance of my vote. Ex-legal leech, ex-priest / kiddyfiddling supporter and demonstrated opponent of free speech just for starters.

Hasbeen while I need my pants to fall down at the races as much as I need your mob in power, it has already been assured.
BUT do other see the danger?
Can Palmer win senate seats.
Will Katter.
Both have a very handy tool in this country, they shout out their policy,s and kick heads.
Queensland loves loud voices, Australia does.
But am I blind?, will they if they get senate power not be the Liberals greens.
I have seen a thousand posts, maybe more, insulting the independents- for being independent!
Would these two splinters from your side become saints, for the trouble making ability to hold Abbott to ransom.
This country needs more small party,s like a hole in the head.

I'm trying to work out if Clive is genuine about helping all Australians or just about helping the big end of town
Ludwig,
Isn't Clive the one who rewards his workers with generous bonuses every so often ? I have yet to see a Union do that for any worker apart from the public service union of course which falls ar$e over backwards with generosity to keep the Labor backbone in place. Clive is wealthy enough to sit back & enjoy live without the hassles of worrying about silly mutts who are too stupid to see that he is trying to help them. He does genuinely care, he doesn't give the impression of being an egoist like those home-made members & supporters of Labor.
I can't detect any egoism in his mannerism.