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Just noticed the following from Big Clive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAhIMMrAHEM&feature=youtu.be

One can't help but be impressed with the eloquence of this bloke. If his statement to the media is any indication, he has a completely different 'lets cut the crap' attitude than what we've come to expect from the major party bloodsucking parasites. In particular his responses to media questions on lobbying, the carbon tax rort, processing minerals locally & the boat people / refugees issue suggest we'd be INFINITELY better off with Big Clive installed in Canberra. Perhaps more to the point is the feeling one gets that he doesn't fit the 'if the lips move' paradigm hitherto endemic to the political animal.
Posted by praxidice, Sunday, 19 May 2013 12:05:55 PM
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Hmh, How many times have some on this forum alluded to that & then be accused of not understanding.
I think & I hope that there are enough thinking Australians to help him restore this Nation by ridding it of so many high ranking useless parasites. I know who I will vote for if his party gets endorsed. Tony Abbott had my fullest support but when he failed to knock back the huge pollies pay rise he went down in my estimation.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 19 May 2013 6:24:48 PM
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I'm trying to work out if Clive is genuine about helping all Australians or just about helping the big end of town.

You can usually determine this by what they omit from their policies that are important to us all.Presently his policies in this initial stage are light on content and substance.

Glenn Lazarus is one of his proteges who sings the praises of Joh Bjelke Peterson as an honest and great politician.That's a worry.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 19 May 2013 6:26:42 PM
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Dear Prax.,

Anything on offer as an alternative to the
LNP has got to be a step in the right
direction.

Go Clive and Bob Katter.
More like them are needed.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 19 May 2013 7:30:54 PM
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Arjay, who cares about whether or not Joe was honest.

At the end of the day, QUEENSLAND was a far better place under his control.

As for big Clive, he may have my vote Also, although I do wish he had more time.

It wouldn't surprise me to see a Clive/LNP coalition.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 19 May 2013 7:31:10 PM
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More like them are needed.
Lexi,
Well, at least you know which side your bread is buttered on.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 19 May 2013 8:18:37 PM
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My advice is to put Clive and his party under the microscope.It's intention could be to bundle up all the disaffected voters and lead them nowhere.

Abbott cannot be trusted since he already he is talking about putting the GST on everything and increase it.We do not need anymore taxes.

We cannot trust pollies and have to nail them down with solid policies before giving them our votes.Palmer won't win the next election.At best he will take votes from the Coalition and be in Govt with them.Not many traditional Labor voters will vote for a billionaire.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 19 May 2013 10:54:53 PM
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Praxidice, I agree: Big Clive is worth listening to.

<< I'm trying to work out if Clive is genuine about helping all Australians or just about helping the big end of town. >>

Likewise Arjay.

<< Anything on offer as an alternative to the LNP has got to be a step in the right direction >>

Lexi, Anything on offer as an alternative to the LNP or Labor certainly needs to be very carefully considered. But unfortunately they are not necessarily better. Think: the Greens and Family First. And Katter’s mob hasn’t exactly inspired me.

But there is the Stable Population Party, which unfortunately is not gaining any recognition in the lead-up to the federal election.
Posted by Ludwig, Sunday, 19 May 2013 11:24:25 PM
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Clive offers sense & it's that what will make people think more Australia than just me,me. We have lost our sense of direction, our sense of just about everything that is needed to be a cohesive nation. We import way too much including future trouble. We need to sit back & ignore the rose-coloured visions of the do-gooder brigade & focus on reality. One huge reality is that there is no discipline hence the super-urgent need for a national service. There are no economic stimulants hence the need for tax reform, we are being invaded hence the super urgent need for a defence force which actually defends this country instead channelling the invaders here.
Clive still thinks like someone who can still think unlike our academic lawyer-experts who are ruining this country in an almost competitive manner. I think with sufficient support in every which way Clive can rid us of this traitorous cancer & get rid of the moles on our back. We only literally have moments left to change. Don't blow it by thinking of yourself first. Stop the rot !
Posted by individual, Monday, 20 May 2013 6:25:59 AM
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I think in all fairness, very few like Gillard and labor and the coalition are a mere Skelton of their former self.

So really, what do we have to loose, because there are two key points.
1. Nobody could possibly do worse than we have just seen.

2. At worst, it's a three year term and, if neither of the major parties are elected, in their one right, what a message that would send to them both.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 20 May 2013 7:06:55 AM
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I welcome Mad Clive as, if he polls well a trouble maker for those he gets his votes from , the coalition.
Katter too mad as his voice is high when stressed is in that box, blunder on lads.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 20 May 2013 7:39:26 AM
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It seems clear that independents and new party’s emerge from a spat with the main party’s. Clive is no different in this respect from Katter, Wilkie, Oakeshott and Windsor.

The big question is whether or not the electorates will support more of the from same from "others" and it will be interesting to see how the preferences flow at the next election.

IMHO there will be reduced support for “others” and Greens in percentage terms, this support is already showing signs of stress, which could translate in insufficient preferences to make any difference.

Add to this the fact that as the new party’s try to develop policy we are starting to see defections already.

We can see from current polling that there is still 23% for Greens and Others. The big question is how many of these votes are just “parked” and can the “Others and Greens” hold that base?

It will be less important as to where the votes are going “to” and more important as to where they come “from”.

I can see a QLD/NSW type poll result happening in a 60/40 TPP rout of the government.
Posted by spindoc, Monday, 20 May 2013 9:19:03 AM
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If we are going to have a biilionare in Parliament my preference would be Twiggy Forrest. He has demonstrated a genuine concern for people. If Q & A is anything to go by Katter and Palmer were just loud mouth puffs of air being used by the ABC to bash the party they hate. Please Tony Abbott sell off the ABC to get some balance into it.
Posted by runner, Monday, 20 May 2013 11:13:48 AM
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Keep praying Belly, you just may get your wish.

Heaven knows why on earth you would want these fools back in. Must be the old die hard brain washing that labor seems to inflict on their loyal, unconditional followers .

But please, spare a thought for the rest of us, as it's our money as well that this mob has pissed away, assisted by the likes of yourself.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 20 May 2013 1:41:13 PM
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Belly I have a feeling you may be wrong about where Palmer will get his votes. Judging by the comments on another couple of forums I have recently looked at, there are an enormous number of labor voters who are very disillusioned, & upset with Labor, but could never bring themselves to vote Liberal, or Abbott.

I expect quite a number of them will chose Palmer as an alternative to either. I do believe that quite a few who have decided they just cant vote for this labor lot, & are planning to vote Liberal, will very happily chose to vote for Palmer as a happy alternative. Thus I think his vote will come almost equally from both majors. It could be an interesting election.

I see Palmer as too erratic to lead a country. Leaping into the deep end, half baked, then rushing off somewhere else may be a good way to run a small miner, who must grab opportunities when available, but is too irrational for me in a PM. A bit too much like Rudd & his catastrophes.

Still you would have to be rather irrational to even consider voting for Gillard, so he may have appeal in those who could still vote for her.

I do think it is irrational for Labor voters to be even considering a billionaire boss, but then it's a strange world.

It would be ironic, & what she deserves, but can you imagine Gillard & her lot trying to deal with the mess her cunning Abbott traps will leave us in. Yes what she deserves, but what could we possibly have done to deserve such a fate. It would make Grease & Spain look like a summer picnic.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 20 May 2013 3:02:16 PM
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Rechtub, do you understand any thing, are you a child posing as ADULT?
Do you see me talking of my side, admitting they are beaten?
Bloke lets be honest, with each other.
You should not comment on things you know nothing about, say stick to sausages
Now take a deep breath read spindoc,s post, slowly, then read it again.
Get an interpreter if you need one.
Both I and from Menzies house spindoc, * UNDERSTAND *
Both katter and Clive are going to take Conservative votes therefore are of little use to any one.
You in constantly questioning my under standing/honesty should first consider the story about glass houses.
Spindoc he is one of yours tell him, it will be worth being a scrutneer in some QLD seats!
Posted by Belly, Monday, 20 May 2013 3:39:56 PM
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Belly, I fully understand. I understand that despite the terrible job labor have done, and despite the fact that they will head to the election, with gillard as leader, and despite your vented anger about her, and the parties direction, you are still going to vote for her.

If you don't like labor, as they are, and your can't bring yourself to change your ways, may I suggest you pay the fine, and don't vote, or, vote informally.

Either way, you would be doing us all a favor.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 20 May 2013 3:50:43 PM
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There is some good stuff proposed by the ALP, the NLP, the Greens, KAP and Clive’s mob. The problem is amongst the good there is a lot of bad.

If any one of them had an absolute majority we get the bad with the good and that’s bad.

Clive said – “Section forty one of the constitution says every Australian will have the right to vote and having right to vote is having the right to choose.”

I say - Spot on Clive, it sounds like you support proportional representation to me?

The current crop of politicians in the House of Representatives is not representative of those Australians chose in the last election. This is due to this countries undemocratic disproportionate two party preferred system. A proportional system would have delivered Labour 57, Coalition 65, Greens 18, Others 10, seats in the House of Representatives.

Clearly Australian voters are not represented by those they chose.

If we are fortunate that come September this parliament is hung and if Clive’s mob is fortunate enough to hold the balance or is able to form a government. Will his party commit to proportional representation?
Posted by Producer, Monday, 20 May 2013 4:43:35 PM
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Before you vote for Clive's United Aust Party,write to him and ask him questions about about how his policies will make your life better.
Make no knee jerk decisions you will later regret.

This is an age of deception and treachery of which I'm totally astounded.There are very few people we can trust.So choose with the utmost discretion.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 20 May 2013 4:56:14 PM
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What we need Producer is a return to the UK system of first past the post voting. That way we would get rid of the riff raff now appearing in our parliaments.

The last thing we need is any more special interest people getting balance of power.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 20 May 2013 5:29:28 PM
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Hasbeen - The last thing we need is any more special interest people getting balance of power.

I think the very last thing we need is more of the same crap bloodsucking parasite politicians have been inflicting on us for twenty years or more. Lawyer leeches turned politicians are top of my disgust list, closely followed by the very 'career politicians' Big clive mentions in the interview. We already know neither the ALP nor the LNP have a ghost of a clue about stopping the boats however the UAP / PUP have a well thought out plan that has been tried and proven overseas. We've seen both the ALP & the LNP selling minerals offshore without a thought of processing here, we've seen both major parties pandering to lobbyists rather than their constituents, we've seen both major parties lining their own pockets & squandering millions on has-been parasites .... how many more reasons do we need to scrap PROVEN scumbag parties ??
Posted by praxidice, Monday, 20 May 2013 8:21:41 PM
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Hasbeen – There are 20 candidates running for a seat. Eighteen get 5% of the vote, The Old Farts Party get 4% and the winner, first past the post on 6% is Sheik Bin Here Five Minutes of the Gay, Muslin (no I haven’t spelt it wrong) Dance Jihad Party.

A first past the post result you would support?

Like it or not, for better or worse proportional representation is democratic and fair.

You get those for whom you vote.

I believe even the poms are thinking about ditching FPP
Posted by Producer, Monday, 20 May 2013 8:22:39 PM
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The last thing we need is any more special interest people getting balance of power.
praxidice,
When that special interest is the future of this nation then special interest people is the FIRST thing we need. Some people simply can't grasp the thought of someone else actually caring, that's how low our society has drooped. Some even think discipline & responsibility are too much to ask. I for one do not need policies presented by Clive at this stage, for me it is enough that he openly cares & puts his money where his mouth is. Just by doing that he has shown three times more integrity than Abbott & 50 times more than Gillard & Co.
For that alone he deserves to get in. Those who fear that are the ones who give nothing but take plenty.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 7:42:22 AM
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Praxidice,
I thought I was the most cynical poster here but you leave me for dead. Your terminology shows that.

OK, you really do not expect PUP to make much inroads first up, I do not seen the same talk or support that Pauline got when she first stood. So who will you give your second preference to?

I am cynical about the two major parties but, I see the present mob as so deceitfull and incompedent that they have to be tossed out. The reality is that the Libs will form government, so after my primary vote goes to PUP or KAP my next preference will go to the LIBS.

You have no time for the majors but one or the other WILL form government, so which one do you dislike the least.
Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 9:02:57 AM
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That is such a despicable aspect of our federal voting system. If you vote for PUP or KAP or any other minor party, it means that you specifically want to vote against both Lib and Lab. Well, that’d be the way of it for the vast majority.

But your vote will end up counting for either Lib or Lab, whichever you put higher in your list of preferences. And if you don’t preference either, your vote is VOIDED, because you’ve got to mark every square.

Such is the despicable totally antidemocratic compulsory preferential voting system!

So those who are pissed off with the Laborials really only have one course of action – to put in a null vote!

Sorry Clive, but even if you are a really good bloke with just the right sort of policies, I won’t be voting for ya because the system will STEAL my vote and make it count where I absolutely don’t want it to.
Posted by Ludwig, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 9:19:23 AM
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Ludwig,
I do not like our forced preferential system of voting either, because it is supported by the two major parties, as it favours them.

However I will not void my vote,I have to attend anyway. I will use it to give some support to the minor party, or independant, of my choice. Hopefully they will get sufficient votes to qualify for electoral funding and thus get my $2.00+ for the primary vote.

I know a major will end up with the vote, so I have to chose between dumb and dumber.

What else can one do?
Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 10:12:37 AM
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Rechtub do you know every line in your last post proves you understand nothing?
Do you think this country, all of it, should become a one party system.
Or that my right to both hang my party,s wrongs out to dry, yet vote for them is un-Australian.
Do you butch think?
I am, hopefully, content to play my roll in reforming the great party that best fits my requirements, that is after Gillard leaves tail between her legs after defeat.
Unlike [thankfully] you I can see faults in my team while you just do not see much at all.
[any one else having to sign in every visit?]
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 1:25:50 PM
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Banjo, I have, many times, said our preferential voting system is broken.
One vote one value would serve most.
Minoritys thrive on this system.
Why can we not kill all second even third votes?
Do some even know they can vote in this failed way for their worst nightmare?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 4:39:59 PM
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Banjo & Ludwig – I too share your frustration with the non-democratic disproportional Australian voting system and have long been an advocate for a proportional system.

It meets Belly’s requirements in that it gives one value for one vote.

You are not going to change the system by casting an invalid vote because that will only entrench the current system.

Clive said – “Section forty one of the constitution says every Australian will have the right to vote and having right to vote is having the right to choose.”

What needs to be done is to convince Clive and his cronies to include a change to proportional representation as one of their core policies. If the KAP and the Greens included it as a core policy as well it would further strengthen the case. They all would benefit from such a change.

I believe there is enough disillusioned Australians from all walks of life and political persuasion that there is a good chance of a hung parliament.

If we can hang the bastards we can change the system.

Below is a thread I started in March last year on proportional representation you may find of interest.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5047#135467
Posted by Producer, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 6:04:52 PM
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I'm not convinced that the minor parties would benefit.

I generally vote for the Coalition. Not real happy with the current mob and especially their support for the badly broken family law/child support system (as well as a dissatisfaction on a number of issues).

I really don't want Labor back in. In summary if one of the majors is going to get in I'd rather the coalition than Labor. I suspect I'm not alone.

If I get the opportunity to vote for a credible minor party or a decent independent I may well do so giving my preference to the Libs. Little risk in that strategy even if the candidate I vote for does not get up.

If it's first past the post there is little chance that anyone other than the Lib would get that vote unless they had an extremely good chance of winning. If's between the two evils I consider the Libs the lesser of the evils.

I doubt that I'm alone in my overall thinking even if the choice about which major is the lesser of the evils differs.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 7:17:06 PM
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Banjo

thought I was the most cynical poster here but you leave me for dead. Your terminology shows that.

It would be extremely difficult to argue that the ALP, the LNP or the Greens for that matter deserve anything more than the utmost contempt.

OK, you really do not expect PUP to make much inroads first up, I do not seen the same talk or support that Pauline got when she first stood. So who will you give your second preference to?

Big Clive could well surprise everyone. The few sheeple of my acquaintance who are giving the RAbbott even a fleeting thought are worried that a vote for Big Clive could help the red-headed witch. I don't know one single person who wouldn't happily stick pins in a JooLIAR doll if they knew some voodoo. I figure its a bit early to talk about preferences, however the witch & the greens are unquestionably bottom of the list. I cannot abide the RAbbott so depending on the final wash-up of preference allocations I'll have a look around before the election and decide then. Obviously I don't want even a hint of a preference going the way of the witch, as for the rest of the rabble, I'd prefer to have a gaggle of conservative rats & mice rather than the RAbbott. I've written the greens off previously as a labor appendage however I'll re-appraise them if they stop being joined at the hip to the ALP. I'm not into the gay marriage bit, the welcome mat for boat people, lobbying, cronyism, and international aid when so many Australians are hurting, consequently those issues will weigh on any second preference

to be continued
Posted by praxidice, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 7:51:03 PM
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continued

Banjo

You have no time for the majors but one or the other WILL form government, so which one do you dislike the least.

I'm not jumping to any conclusions about the LNP. With a few months to go, Big Clive has the time and the resources to do what One Nation couldn't. From my perspective, there isn't much to choose between ALP & LNP. The red-headed witch, the dying duck & the wong wun are well past their use-by date but then we at least know what kind of evil with which we are dealing. RAbbott & Turnbull are likely to be a carbon-copy of Newman / Seeney / Nicholls, something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Personally I'd rather select a 'none of the above' option on the ballot papers than give either of the majors a vote. I don't recall ever having voted for a bunch of rats & mice before, but this time who knows ??
Posted by praxidice, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 7:52:04 PM
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I guess all we can do is hope that Abbott is a Newman X 2 or 3.

If Palmer & his party is still around in another 3 years, then it will be time to think about him. This time we need someone who has some experience, & will be stable.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 8:35:27 PM
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Hasbeen - This time we need someone who has some experience, & will be stable

The 'experience' belong RAbbott is exactly why he has no chance of my vote. Ex-legal leech, ex-priest / kiddyfiddling supporter and demonstrated opponent of free speech just for starters.
Posted by praxidice, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 8:55:12 PM
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Hasbeen while I need my pants to fall down at the races as much as I need your mob in power, it has already been assured.
BUT do other see the danger?
Can Palmer win senate seats.
Will Katter.
Both have a very handy tool in this country, they shout out their policy,s and kick heads.
Queensland loves loud voices, Australia does.
But am I blind?, will they if they get senate power not be the Liberals greens.
I have seen a thousand posts, maybe more, insulting the independents- for being independent!
Would these two splinters from your side become saints, for the trouble making ability to hold Abbott to ransom.
This country needs more small party,s like a hole in the head.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 5:18:22 AM
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I'm trying to work out if Clive is genuine about helping all Australians or just about helping the big end of town
Ludwig,
Isn't Clive the one who rewards his workers with generous bonuses every so often ? I have yet to see a Union do that for any worker apart from the public service union of course which falls ar$e over backwards with generosity to keep the Labor backbone in place. Clive is wealthy enough to sit back & enjoy live without the hassles of worrying about silly mutts who are too stupid to see that he is trying to help them. He does genuinely care, he doesn't give the impression of being an egoist like those home-made members & supporters of Labor.
I can't detect any egoism in his mannerism.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 5:28:53 AM
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But Indi, he has to care in the right way. I’ve heard nothing to indicate that Clive knows anything about sustainability or the imperative to stop the demand for everything from continuously increasing for as long and the essential resource supply capability and supporting infrastructure and services are stressed right out, which is our reality in Australia.

If Clive was to mirror some of Dick Smith’s concerns in this regard, then he’d have my full support. But I doubt he’d get it otherwise.
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 8:23:46 AM
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Ludwig - he has to care in the right way. I’ve heard nothing to indicate that Clive knows anything about sustainability or the imperative to stop the demand for everything from continuously increasing for as long and the essential resource supply capability and supporting infrastructure and services are stressed right out, which is our reality in Australia.

Neither the ALP nor the LNP give a rats about sustainibility / curbing demand, in fact its quite obvious that because of their ever-increasing need for revenue, both are devoted to big-Australim / multintionalism / consumerism / economic growth, and all the other evils of modern society. Note that I'm ignoring the carbon-tax con which was only conceived as another source of revenue. On the other hand, I've yet to hear any questions re the aforementioned issues put to Big Clive so we can't even guess as to his policies.

Those policies which have already been aired are certainly far more appealing than the ALP / LNP equivalents, for example onshore processing of minerals, banning career politicians, slashing payouts to has-been bloodsucking parasites, his innovative (albeit tried & proven overseas) proposal re boat people etc. The major parties have had years to discover and implement any of the above but all the clowns have done is frantically line their own pockets, appoint friends to cushy jobs, and squander our money on ever more pointless causes. What further incenses me about the red-headed witch, the dying duck & the wong wun is the half-billion dollars they have squirrelled away to fund their futile attempt at re-election. Surely that must be an all-time low in a litany of highly questionable doings
Posted by praxidice, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 9:01:43 AM
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<< Neither the ALP nor the LNP give a rats about sustainibility / curbing demand… >>

Too right, Praxidice.

And therein lies the single biggest issue confronting our national future wellbeing.

We desperately need a new political force specifically to address this issue, above all others. Katter doesn’t get it. It would appear the Palmer doesn’t it either.

Now, wouldn’t it be just wonderful if big Clive was to see the great opportunity here to do something really good for the country, which would stand out as being very different from the current political paralysis and which would appeal greatly to the masses.

<< I've yet to hear any questions re the aforementioned issues put to Big Clive so we can't even guess as to his policies. >>

Likewise. I’ve heard many of his interviews and there has not been a single mention of this sort of thing!

What we desperately need is for Clive and Dick and the Stable Population Party to join forces!

Then we’d REALLY have something worth voting for!
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 10:13:59 AM
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Its purely a stab in the dark on my part at this point in time, but my hope / guess / whatever is that the UAP / PUP is more likely to form a coalition if needed with a bunch of minor parties rather than to enter an incestuous relationship with RAbbott / Hockey / Turnbull. Note that Big Clive has promised in many interviews that he will 'listen'. That alone is far more than we can reasonably expect from the ALP who already have far too many voices clamouring to be heard in their own ridiculous caucus & the LNP which really should be re-named the 'lobbyist party' because thats the only tribe they listen to. My gut feeling is that the rift between Big Clive & the LNP is pretty deep, possibly too much so for any accommodation that isn't very heavily squewed in favour of the UAP / PUP. a meeeting of the minds with KAP, Pauline Hanson and a few other rats & mice would, to may way of thinking, be more likely and more beneficial than a UAP / PUP & LNP alliance. Just imagine Big Clive, Pauline Hanson & the RAbbott sitting together, life could be VERY interesting indeed. I for one would dearly love to see Pauline putting the RAbbott through the mincer :) :) :)
Posted by praxidice, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 10:45:14 AM
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I remember the ridiculous "Joh for PM" campaign and how it split the conservative vote.

Now we have "Clive for PM".

I for one can see the irony of his plan to rebuild the Titanic.

His campaign will sink the same way as the ship.
Posted by wobbles, Friday, 24 May 2013 3:29:21 PM
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wobbles - His campaign will sink the same way as the ship

Keep an eye on the media over the next week, you may well eat your words
Posted by praxidice, Friday, 24 May 2013 5:41:05 PM
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praxidice,

I'm not saying he won't get any votes.

I'm saying that he will take votes away from the Libs and Nats (like Joh did) but I'm also fairly certain that even if they win a few seats, he won't get enough to make any difference at all to an incoming government.
Posted by wobbles, Friday, 24 May 2013 8:51:19 PM
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He is going to take quite a few votes of people who can't stand Gillard, & want her gone, but could never vote for the Libs, or Abbott.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 24 May 2013 11:24:12 PM
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At this stage of the leadup to the 2013 federal election the opinion polls are not showing much support for the "Others" category. Neither Katters AP nor Palmer's United Party seem to have much voter support. What appears to be there seems limited to Queensland (not surprisingly. If Katter and Palmer achieve their stated goal of running candidates in all 150 House of Representative seats, they are going to need a lot of money to mount any kind of national campaign. Palmer certainly has the money to do so, but I doubt Katter has millions of dollars at his disposal.
With the rise of new right wing parties, could this so dissipate the Liberal vote that the very confident, some would say arrogant Abbott, may either just fall over the line or fail to do so. I can imagine voters not wedded to either Labor, Liberal or the Greens getting a bit shy of any party that seems to be producing break away parties such as Palmer United Party...and may drift back to Labor...the Greens or to a high profile independent candidate rather than to go with the Coalition.
It would be so ironic after all of Labor's stumbles and errors of judgment it managed to scrape a victory in what is supposed to be an unwinnable election for them.
Posted by Robal, Saturday, 25 May 2013 2:26:00 PM
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A little bird tells me to expect a few surprises from the Palmer camp in the very near future.
Posted by praxidice, Saturday, 25 May 2013 7:39:20 PM
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Yet we still don't know what his party stands for other than a broad motherhood statement along the lines of 'we will unite all Australians'. What does this mean and how will he achieve this wonderous goal?

I can't see Clive Palmer saying no to the mining groups even if it means destruction of agriculural land such as in the CSG fiascos. I can't see Clive Palmer taking a sustainable approach to growth or acknowledging the importance of protecting the environment.
Posted by pelican, Monday, 27 May 2013 6:16:40 PM
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