How with some civilty can I tell Indy, or for that matter Rechtub, the brighter of the two what I think.
First in the rough and tumble of this site, show me one contributor from my side of the fence who insults so often.
Tell me I am that person and I will use my reserves.
This thread infers ALP voters are lessor.
A truth not to be chalenged, we have shared this site with interesting folk.
We in my view should never name them by name, but some seemed to need mental health issues looked at.
Some threatened some put words in to deeds.
As rude/stubborn and what ever you chose to call me, or any who ever posted here, look no further than indy for a great black hole in the understanding others rights to differing views part of his brain.

This thread infers ALP voters are lessor.
Belly,
No, your vote counts as much as mine so don't worry you're not seen as lesser. Going by who we support I'm actually the lesser one because I support an outfit that does less damage to this country & its people.
What you call understanding is nothing more than participating in the greedy grab, hangers-on mentality that is so prevalent on your side of politics.
I support cutting the immoral salaries of those on the public purse. No-one, under the present economic circumstances should be on more than $150,000PA. Let the ex PM's live off their Super like everyone else. It's insane to give these people free offices, free travel, free secretaries or whatever they're rumoured to get. No-one can convince me that old codgers like Goaf & Mal & need what they receive. They probably can't even spend half of it, so who are we actually paying that money & what for ? Even Hawke, Keatinge & Howard are still on way too much money & benefits. I wonder what Rudd is on now.
I have no problem with ex pollies getting a decent pension but I draw the line at an indecent one.
If only the electorate were aware of how much some of these public servants cost us & deny us.

csteel, I must confess that I should have elaborated and targeted Retail, rather than just small business, as many small businesses have boomed, riding on the back of mining. My appologies.

As for gross turnover, that relates to sales, before any expenses comes out.

My last butcher shop is a prime example of greed from landlords, as my rent was around $130,000 per year, and my sales were about $$11,000 per week, so it took about 13 weeks turnover to pay the rent.

Back in the mid 90's, my rent was just $15,000 per year and my sales were about $30,000 per week. Happy days!

In the early 2000's, my rent was $50,000 per year and my sales about $28,000 per week.

IN 2008 my rent was $100,000 per year and my turnover was about $15,000 per week.

Another problem we now face is a change in the law whereby directors are now personably liable for debts, even if they havnt provided a personal guarantee, another change that makes doing business just that much less attractive.

Like it or not, small business today has a greater chance of failing, than succeeding, and that's a real worry.

I often say, the best way to assess a small business (retail), is would you buy your own business.

Chances are, not many would.

If there is such a thing as GROSS TURNOVER there must also be a thing called NETT TURNOVER. Wouldn't it be GROSS PROFIT and NETT PROFIT TURNOVER = SALES in a butcher shop.
Small business can't have it all their own way. Ripping off taxation like they do and expecting an easy ride on IR and regulation as well.

Just to further clarify, the term gross turnover, means all sales, including any that are external to the shop, eg, caffee, pubs, clubs etc.

Sorry for any confusion there.

Paul, as far as small business ripping off the tax man, yep, it does go on, I am the first to admit that.

As for what you consider To be an easy ride with regards to IR, I consider two grown adults, coming to an amicable arrangement to be a fair system, as not everything has to revolve around dollars.

Like it or not, labor have caused a lot of grief between employers and employees, much of which has eroded mutual respect between the parties.

Paul while you and I can never agree on politics, we do in part on attitudes.
However if you care to, look back at our swapped words the night before Rudd won the right to lead the country.
And be knifed by his own side.
We actually wished each other luck, and I not knowing it would be so, probably handed out your HTV not knowing it was for the last time.
I want you to consider this, your humor, stirring, does not transplant to print.
It is built in to Aussie mens culture, but even when face to face it leads some times, to war.
This thread is reason enough to re look at your style.
We both targeted or was it more likely returned fire?
The expressed view we are in some way unthinking in the poling booth.
The quite silly view, unless we vote as butcher does we inflict pain on our country.
IF only we could tell!
But in truth unlike your more mischievous posts, this one while ROTFL! funny is not meant to be so!
I having fired many volley across my sides bows,and yours, am concerned that the intellectual value of some threads is near zero.