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Ok Belly, so let's look at this from another prospective, if you will.

Other than an increase to the GST, how do you propose an incoming government pays back the MASSIVE debt, left by these incompitent fools, aided over the past 6 odd years by their loyal supporters?

Any suggestions?
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 28 April 2013 2:04:11 PM
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What an amazing swifty distraction Poirot. Question? What Question?

Back to the balancing of budgets.

<<Your problem is that not one single scientist anywhere on the planet has yet balanced the CO2 budget. Like poor Wayne, you can't find the "surplus".>>

And your response to this would be what precisely?

Abbott has nothing to do with it Poirot, just a convenient distraction. Look! Another Unicorn.

The whole global warning thingy went up in a puff of smoke. I didn’t do it, Abbott didn’t do it.

Kyoto finally expired after 18 years in intensive care with no friends at its bedside. The global renewables industry has collapsed and the CO2 emissions trading markets have imploded.

The reason for this was bad science. In the end your pseudo-science couldn’t even muster enough credibility to sustain that which was created for it. Not my bad science and not Abbott’s bad science.

It was your science Poirot, all yours. If you can’t balance your budget you will have to join Wayne’s World in exile.

As for the CO2 Tax and all the bureaucracies supporting it? Abbott will of course regrettably sacrifice them all in the interests of his own surplus. Watch closely to see how it’s done Poirot.

PS, Don’t forget the question
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 28 April 2013 2:53:09 PM
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INDIVIDUAL, PLEASE DO NOT BE OFFENDED, YOUR FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD, AS EXPECTED IS WRONG TOTALLY SO!
a truth than can not be challenged is under Labor we have paid less tax than under Howard/Costello.
SPIN doc,not unexpected from you, a failure to under stand a simple truth.
The link is about your side putting it up, mine will be sitting in the first few opposition seats, not in need of many more, but thanks, for the rant.
First Labor then Liberals bought the tax to this country.
It was, in part, meant to replace SOME tax.
And it remains a tool I think likely, to be introduced by Abbott.
And, in truth we need a true tax reform program.
We stunt out country,s growth with taxes like the huge impost on fuel, via tax.
We could, just maybe, cut that with higher GST.
And we could get rid of little niggling tax,s that cost near as much to collect as they bring.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 28 April 2013 4:47:24 PM
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Belly mate it is not the tax we have paid, but the tax we & our kids are going to have to pay to cover the interest on the enormous debt your mates have run up.

There is also the small question of the 10s of billions damn fool promise for the NBN, the Disability Insurance Scheme, [what a fool name for a handout], & the Gonski report among others, all unfunded.

Add to this the drop in tax receipts we will experience when the full effect carbon tax & the mining tax, now just starting to kick in, turn the mining boom off, & doubling the GST would not fix the problem.

What we need is an IQ test for candidates. No one with an IQ below 80 should be allowed to stand. That would avoid idiots like Swan, Wong, & those green harpies from the south, getting into parliament again.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 28 April 2013 5:52:06 PM
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http://www.afr.com/p/opinion/get_on_with_gst_reform_iCTIX0OwE0FY2w2zDfGj5J
God forbid we ever get an IQ test for posters Hasbeen!
My link, please read before commenting Indy and SPIN doc, shows many more than I consider it a worth while thing.
Both sides know tax reform must come.
Both sides, in my view, should also consider cuts and improved outcomes for all money spent.
Gillard has over spent, not in GFC , well not much,but she has with help, assured a Liberal coalition will have plenty of time in office.
We all should take a breath when tax and its reform are mentioned.
We just must pay enough, or cut services .
Many after reading yesterdays news,will know NSW councils want/seemingly will, stop pensioner rebates on council rates.
Seems in this state, the only one, state government does not return to councils in full, the rebate.
12 Billion shortfall in tax takings touted for this financial year, do we end free education, cut health services? how do we pay for all we ask from government?
Labors center and left, along with the red necks section of Liberals,Nationals Tea Party , will always cry about paying more, but too want more in drought or fire flood or any difficulty.
A tax reform that greatly increases GST, while dropping many others, maybe most others, can be used without the pain some wrongly thought the Howard GST would bring.
Both sides need to see the very real implications of not having the money to keep current services.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 29 April 2013 6:26:01 AM
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If everyone were to have to pay the same rate of tax everyone who wants to make more than the next could do so. Their only barrier being demand & competence. I for one can not think of a more balanced system. It would be a win, win all around. To make us better too as citizens throw in a couple of years of national service & I guarantee you that we'd be the Nation others would look at as a role model. It can be achieved, just ignore the handful of greed bags who'll scream blue murder.
Posted by individual, Monday, 29 April 2013 6:39:45 AM
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