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Sit Down Money

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For give, this post is off subject.
After Labors defeat, SOME policy,s will need looking at.
Paul remember if Labor refuses Liberals will do it in a much harsher way.
Welfare, Must! just based on coasts increasing costs with the working life of baby boomer,s near over.
So,New Labor must look at outcomes MOST Australians can live with.
No one should be entitled to get sit down money, it hurts them more than us.
A job, is the answer.
No political party can avoid change, living with a system that is wrong is no answer.
Back on track JOM I believe it is legal, to say one is from country and judge on that,we may yet win that case, I am not being paid for that work.
Leave the bias out side the door, think of the results 200 years of miss management have given.
See that even in 1970 these folk worked but had their wages stolen.
Look at the success some have achieved but know the mass failure many are,we failed them.
Take a while to consider how would you be, if you had been born in to this community?
We can do better, but watch the knee jerk reaction to my thoughts every unemployed person should work on the right wage, not get sit down money.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 18 April 2013 8:09:03 AM
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MO and Paul,

A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again.

Read and learn. Listen and learn. Experience and learn. And perhaps in twenty years, or whenever you reach adulthood, whichever comes second, you can advise us what to think.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 18 April 2013 8:54:04 AM
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Belly, I have refrained from unleashing a well deserved berating to some on here for their totally bias stance. It is important that we remember and understand history, but unfortunately we can not change it. In my view it is very much a time to move on, remember the sins of the past but some indigenous people do themselves no good continually playing the blame game and nothing else.
I refer once more to my partner, who as a young child was given a European name by the white man, that was when she was 5, was smacked for talking her native language and told that being what she was, she would never get anywhere in life. She didn't have much as a kid living in a large family and her mother died fairly young. The family land was unscrupulously stolen from her father, who was illiterate, by white men, their family homestead was even burnt down, with most of their positions inside, the land is still in white mans hands to this day. You would expect her to have a lot of hate for the Pakeha, but no, in fact just the opposite, she has aroha (love) for all.
As for not amounting to anything, how many of us can claim a future prime minister, and a very good friend, David Longe, attended my wedding. I can't.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 18 April 2013 9:29:07 AM
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rehctub,

You just don't get it. They don't want your trinkets. What they want is their land back. Do that for them and they won't waste it like they do your stupid trinkets that have a use by date.

When will you and people like you admit that YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!

Like I told hasbeen and jay of melbourne, it is people like you that anthropologists, sociologists and historians look at when they try to explain why things go wrong in a society.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Thursday, 18 April 2013 12:15:45 PM
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Oh god Mr. O, you do go on. Would those anthropologists you talk of be the ones who prostituted themselves, writing whatever the aboriginal legal aid folk told them to? Evidently that was the ticket to access, & more research grants.

How far should this land redistribution go old mate? Should the aborigines who were pushed further south by later arrivals get their land back? Where should the later arrivals go?

Perhaps the Angles & the Saxons should give the British Isles back to the Celts.

Cloud nine can't have too many practicalities when they have the likes of you there.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 18 April 2013 1:04:52 PM
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Mr Opinion,

As we have seen, saying "sorry" is easy to do, and doesn't mean a thing. Just gives the 'sayers' a fuzzy, warm feeling.

Do you really believe that our indigenous peoples (and there are three races) want to live as they did three hundred years ago, or want to live like others - in the 21st century?

Don't you think Noel Pearson has better insight, empathy and understanding of his peoples than you do? What exactly can you bring to the table?
Posted by Danielle, Thursday, 18 April 2013 1:08:47 PM
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