Leigh: "Amel's big head continues to grow.

He believes that he has the ability to feel compassion for everyone!

I suggest that he is not the best judge of himself - particularly as he admits that people who are not like him make him angry."

Leigh, Amel's statement that he is able to feel compassion for everybody is hardly an egotistical claim - rather, it seems to be a humble statement of thanks that he is able to recognise the innate humanity of all people and feel compassion for them, whether or not he likes or agrees with them.

This, of course, would include miserable old gits like you, who harbour and promote selfish and hateful attitudes towards others that are the antithesis of the peace for which Amel and others (including me) strive. It is also why we even feel compassion towards you, despite the fact that you've rarely a good word to say about anybody who doesn't share your narrow worldview and demographic.

Try and have nice day, won't you?

People against live exports and intensive farming-: "always be ready to share your six loaves of bread with others."

and what if you have 8children a wife and old mother and father and brothers and sisters who are starving? What if the bread is only enough to keep them alive. Who would you give it to then, them or others? Your premise of compassion for others is based on enough to share. It is easy for a kid with lots of spare toys to give some away to others but it is harder when the child has nothing to give.

This is the point I am making in my post about the six loaves of bread that at the survival level man is not ultruistic to those outside his family unless he has enough to share around.
It literally comes down to let your children and mother and father die or feed the neighbours. What choice will you make.

Don't think you are the only one that understands the misery and has compassion for the sufferings of others in terrible circumstances around the world. But that doesnt alter the fact that man will act in the interests of his family first when comes right down to the level of real survival.

people against live exports may I say you bore me?
That your one sided rants amuse but annoy me?
Workchoices is not in any way what you so wrongly claim it is.
How can you ask us to value your opinions if you can not understand it s about those who work not those who do not?
A country man I never had a job that the boss did not ask me to stay in after I said I was going.
Australia, and the polls show clearly workchoices is mostly unwanted, can you not see it is about workers not non workers?
Can you see in your post the failure to understand the issues I find in your threads?
National party members need to get out more find names for sons that are not names of Scottish breeds of cattle like Angus and Brangus, read the paper watch the polls .
Understand why it is too late for John Howard to be elected and understand why you bore me.

Sharkfin
Wouldnt have eights children unless I was wealthy. Which was my point. Australia cant survive on welfare.
= pale May I say you bore me.?
Pale replies- You 'May'
Understand your postion. Happens when people are unable to look at both sides.
Who said any Government got it one hundred percent.
Certainly not me.
Not pro John Howard if you read my many posts.

However because you do not agree with something in a policy it doesnt mean you should not look at the whole of a proposal.

The Howard Government have said there are some things that have been pointed out to them that they would be prepaired to look at.

Thats more than Rudd has said. When you are in a small business - these people demanding unreasonable rights can break you.
Ok I will give you an example.
Stealing- From a small business. People just cant carry that and Nor should they have to. Lazy workers who turn up late and dont work anyway even when they are there. Workers with bad attiutdes towards your customers and other staff.
Everybody should be free to say under those cicumstances bugger off you are destroying my family business.

Oh sure there are ways Belly but it can just about wipe you out by the time you go through the process and they know it and play on it.

Another example- The AMIEU were screaming about jobs being lost by the cruel live export tade and many other things.
Screaming to reopen abattoirs and supply jobs which in return mean members.
The WA Small Business Minister lady has just bloked up from opening those very plants.?
What ever happend to labours fair go for all Aussies?,equal rights.
Why cant the company open a abattoir in WA. under labour.

Isnt labour meant to represent the working class? What about their members AMIEU- I heard through a good source the AMIEU were told to back off.
Out of all the screaming about work rights In Australia they are noticable absent.

Some might say gagged.

Question is Why?

People against live exports-:

You dont have eight children because you ARE wealthy. People in poor countries dont have the choice of family planning.

Contraception and childcare allow the earning of two wages in this country without those benefits of a wealthy country it would be back to male breadwinner at least until the youngest had gone to school and with bigger families that could be quite a few years. We couldnt let babies run wild in the streets uncared for could we.

I agree with you on the live exports thing I think its cruel to the animals. Sort of like the trains the jews were crowded into by the Germans.

Sharkfin

I guess we could all learn from Amel.
I cant help getting cross when our own aboriginal people are so neglected.
You asked me about the six loaves of bread. Well if I were honest I would give mine up to the aboriginal people.
They had been forgotton. Its was their turn.

I am sorry Amel if I dissapoint you however to me its just plain stupid to pump millions into feeding starving kids to keep them alive to reproduce more. We need to look after our own first.

Churches should not be taking millions from hard working people unless its being used in a practicle sense.

Use the money to sterilise more than half of these people at least.

Start working at the problem that way.

If they wont to do that they should hand the job over to a practicle bunch of people who can and will.

They say its easier to do the men. "Then do that." "Do it quickly".

As for here In Australia Sharkfin- We have the highest rate in the world of unmarried mothers.

That means all those women just living off welfare. Its no way to teach children how to live. They grow up and see mum getting money off the tax payer and follow.

Kids learn from their parents.

You mentioned the two parent working family. Umm Well the difference is in the old days people planned and saved for years to buy a house "before' they were married.

Then they "saved and planned" for years so the women could leave work to start a family if thats what they wanted.

Now its have baby first after a few months of knowing the bloke[ or days] go to welfare and say- You must suppport me and my baby and where is my house and free medical free childcare.
No principle in these days I am afraid.
None.
There is part of the problem Sharkfin.