"Because there are a few IT professionals with vested interests..."

Onya Shad, true to form, a baseless claim (against the interviewee in the link of my last post) to parry the truth away. Then you go on to spout yesterday's LNP propaganda as fact.

Do you get paid a consultancy for doing this work 24/7 as you do, or are you an apparatchik?

PS. Someone has to pull you up occasionally just so you don't think you're getting away with all your BS. See also my challenge you left untouched at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5705&page=0#159335

Here in W.A., most all new homes in many estates will have fibre direct to the home installed at the time of build. Would rather save money on the Coalitions plan now, and WHEN we can afford it, then possibly upgrade to fibre if necessary. At the rate technology is leaping ahead, by the time Labour have finished rolling out their plan, who knows whether even that will be obsolete by 2021.

Copper has proven it's longevity. Will fibre be able to match that, and will the cost to the consumer of it's implementation be worth us paying so much more to connect?

Is Labour now including the cost of NBN rollout in it's budget deficit figures?

Can we really afford to keep funding all Labour's grandiose ideas? Short answer is NO!

To spend OUR money so freely without our permission is a crime against us all. The government HAS NO MONEY!

It is your money and mine they are spending so recklessly.

Dead right Shadow Minister, I have always said that if amazing speed is what business wants, then let THEM pay for it.

What is the point in having ultra fast broadband in all households, when many ONLY use it to check emails, or download movies/ games, or pornos.

This government displays pure incompetence on all levels, as almost everything they have been involved in has either failed, blown the budget, or in more recent times, not even made it's way off the dreaming table.

They have made unfunded promise after promise, then blame themlikes of resourse prices for thier shortcomings, only because the GFC excuse has been flogged to death.

World watcher said;
To spend OUR money so freely without our permission is a crime against us all.

Well they are not spending our money, it is all borrowed.
Maybe they know something, ie that we will go broke and our bonds will
be defaulted ? Joke Lexi !

Spindoc said;
I have heard some technological rubbish in my time but one of the NBN spruikers took the biscuit

Yes, quite often the minister puts his foot in it also.

Spindoc also said;
that requires redundant fiber bundle capacity to be laid from day one because of fiber fracture rates?

Is there a problem with fibre fracturing ?
Do you mean while it is just lying in the ducts ?
Or does it happen while being handled ?

The biggest threat I see to the NBN is the figures that I saw for the
percentage of no landline phones houses in the US..
It was a surprisingly high percentage. If that happens here the
finances of both methods will be right up the spout, or down the gurgler.

The future was to be fool proof, the NBN was to be way out in front.
We must except fools have seen that off, and ask what will getting to world average speeds cost in that, now darker future.
Welcome to our new poster, was it northernexposure? forgive if not right.
You are unlikely to find on this subject clear sighted objectivity, we inhabit a space in Conservative tribal land, truth is seen as an unneeded danger to some to fixed closed minds.

LF,

Firstly being more busy than usual, I did not even read either of the posts to which you refer.

With respect to network loading requirements I am not an expert, but I am far from uninformed. There is a $bn plant with dozens of engineers, complex control and financial systems and multiple layers of internal networks for process control, cameras etc. Connecting this plant to the outside for internet, video conferencing, financial and VPN interfaces is a 100Mb/s fiber connection, which is more than adequate. I struggle to see why senator Conjob is trying to sell this as a minimum standard for families.

While some IT professionals lust after raw speed, mostly this is as useful as driving a Lamborghini in rush hour traffic. The day that it is essential for households to be able to simultaneously watch 20 HD movies is decades away. In the last 20 years, compression technology has reduced the bandwidth required for normal TV streaming from 12Mb/s to 250kb/s enabling vastly more efficient use of bandwidth. While future apps may need more bandwidth, much of it will be made up from improved efficiencies.

Refer to http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=10838 which gives a breakdown of what is required for what functions.

As for your infantile challenge on the other thread, I will try not to divert this thread, but insisting that I can only reference "Labor's official position" whilst commenting on their communication with the public is pathetic. Perhaps you would care to re frame your challenge so as not to look like a dunce.