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NBN, we hate to say, we told you so, but, we told you so.

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...And if you check my posting records I have
criticised Labor many times in the past, including
the mess they're in currently and the reasons for it.

So why do you continue your unconditional support Lexi.

You appear adamant that you won't support Abbott, yet the coalition isnthe only government in recent times that has actually held things together.

Surely they are worth a shot, as you habe to remember two things.
1. They can't possibly do any worse
2. There will be another election three years later, so if the nation is not satisfied, they can vote them out.

So what is it you are afraid of Lexi.

It can't be their track record, so just what is it that scares you, any more that being scared of what this mob may do if let loose again, esspecially given the mess they have caused in less than two terms.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 6:49:43 AM
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I love this country. I was born here.
Lexi,
Can you please explain then why you are so vehement in promoting those who are hellbent to ruin it ?
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 6:51:44 AM
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Lexi>> Anyway, I am truly disappointed to find out that someone
I respected does not think very much of me.

I guess that's something I'll have to learn to live with.<<

Lexi my belle, I unreservedly apologize for the stupid line regarding finding another country to vote in.

Lexi the difference between “you” and your “political opinions” are vast to my mind. I have no issue in stating that your persona and who “Lexi is” as an individual DOES carry a special place in my emotional heart. Like Belly you carry favour with me even though you’re “my party right or wrong” position astounds me. It lessens your credibility as a thinking entity.

In the same way that you discount or discard my pleas for rationality and calling a failure a failure, I discount your support for a rotten self serving government that disadvantages Australia as a whole. You said that you vote for policies that will favour you and yours. We are paying TWO FULLY STAFFED TEACHING HOSPITALS a month in interest to foreign banks or governments because Labor are hopeless managers while citizens die on hospital waiting lists. The largest Commonwealth debt in our history and you still support this government.

From Labors Obeid/McDonald theft and political graft in NSW, to the union hierarchy charged with stealing from the HSU members, the nepotism that abounds in “new Labor’s” political and union wings is staggering, but you continue to blindly support them. You have no credibility with me Lexi when it comes to political views.

Northernoutlook>> The BER was the most and only significant aust wide investment in school facilities we have ever seen.<<

Another simple soul mouthing rhetoric from their political masters.
WAKE UP CALL FOR NORTHERNOUTLOOK, our primary school children just came last in a global literacy ranking in English speaking nations….LAST….can you read that…LAST….it seems that the recipients of the brilliant BER cannot….that is your BER my simple acolyte.
Posted by sonofgloin, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 7:11:48 AM
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Not that it matters, not here at least.
The experts not Labor, this morning is reminding us,we are to get third best.
And in the next 30 years become the very poor neighbor in this area.
A truth will elude many, when cost is put before performance you get only what you pay for.
Watch, this thread, as uninformed state as they have here in OLO so very many times, we do not need to play games faster.
Know the in coming government shares such views.
However we all must ask why must this country be last in this area.
I challenge yet again conservatives/Liberals/ Tea Party to show me the inventive policy,s, ones that gave this country good change sponsored by their governments.
Look only at the eyes of Turnbull during his interview at Abbott,s side see the bewilderment.
And too know Turnbull has invested , in NBN type supply in Europe.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 7:27:01 AM
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From a number of perspectives the hybrids are the only realistic model. They offer inherent flexibility, eliminate the technology lock-in, liberate from fixed cost and capital investment recovery restrictions, can accommodate new technologies as part of maintenance rather than capital investment, they offer an open technology environment, facilitate competition and most importantly, they recognize that there is no such thing a one solution fits all and offer choice to the consumer.

Very few of these benefits will be available to NBN customers or relieve us from the built in cost escalation embedded in the NBN.

The “selling” of the NBN solution is getting farcical and embarrassing for the government.

I have heard some technological rubbish in my time but one of the NBN spruikers took the biscuit recently in defending FO technology against copper recently said, but signals travel at the speed of light with FO. You mean just like copper conductors?

Others included tired old copper and slow copper? Would this be the same copper over which equal transmission rates with FO are possible? Would this be the same copper that is impervious to age and where only connections with other metals oxidize? Would this be the same FO that requires redundant fiber bundle capacity to be laid from day one because of fiber fracture rates?

This debate is taking on the same mantra and CAGW but possibly even sillier.
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 10:30:13 AM
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Belly,

Because there are a few IT professionals with vested interests that don't like the coalition's plan does not mean that it is third rate, especially since this is exactly what every other country is doing.

The fiber to the node will cost a third of the NBN's projected $90bn, and will increase speeds to households by 500%. This can if necessary be upgraded to fiber to the premises as needed. This also saves on the cost and maintenance of UPS supplies

Senator Conjob is trying to convince us that internet costs are not going to rise with the NBN, but with the prices that Labor quotes, the NBN is technically bankrupt already. (like buying a $1m house and charging rent of $30/week.)

As for capacity requirements, there is no application in the world that requires more than 10Mb/s for households or home businesses, so 25-50Mb/s essentially future proofs the economy for a few decades. Businesses that need more can upgrade to fiber as and when needed.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 10:47:37 AM
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