Hehehe! We're on a roll today :~)

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I would have to buy more newspapers, to wrap my rubbish.
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And on another thread they're whining about control of what's written in said papers. Who cares, they're all full of crap lies. I don't choose what to burn or wrap rubbish in by their content; different words wont make them burn any beter :~)

I could sink in to the mud and agree, but in truth would rather die.
Willing to bet some who target those on the dole have kids on it now or others in the family.
We here once had great contributors, not now.
An unemployed person, or other welfare receiver may be in a wheel chair.
May vote for any party not the filthy accusation they vote to protect welfare income.
Today we saw a bill pass the lower house, to for our country,s first time ever, truly try to look after those with disability's.
I , at least twice posted threads demanding an end to welfare waste.
Each time rechtub agreed as long as he received benefits for his years of tax.
Your words not mine damn you rechtub.
To lump all in one basket, to defame all on welfare is a filthy thing to do.
Mateship is far more than hate of a whole class of people.

Nice rant Belly, as usual you try to make me out to be a hater of all on welfare.

So may I suggest you getbthis into your thick skull, I OMLY HATE BLUDGERS AND WELFARE WASTE. GET IT!

Now as for someone wheelchair bound, they would most likely be on a disability pension, but nice try anyway.

On that subject, I knew of a lady in a WC who operated a check out at Kmart.

I used to admire her and wait for her to serve me, when possible, and I often wondered why someone like that wasn't Australian of the year, rather than some sporting hero on. Mill plus per year.

But, at the end of the day, as is often the case you have come out guns blazing, yet fail to acknowledge that this thread is about what this toss of a minister, wanting to protect the lives of kids, while knowing full well that billions of the kids money get pissed away each and every year in the way of wasted welfare.

So tell me Belly, domt you think this waste first, would be a better option, rather than simply throwing more money at the problem, as after all, that mentality has led us to the poor situation we are in today. You know, from 20 billion in the bank, to 150 billion in the red AND COUNTING.

Of cause, you're not worried, cause to you it's simply a matter of changing leaders AGAIN!

Belly, I note you wrote this....I , at least twice posted threads demanding an end to welfare waste.

Yes, but the one measure that would almost certainly curb this waste, if not stop it, is controlling what it can, and can't be spent on.

The technology is there, the payments are paid electronically, but for some reason, you can't bring yourself to agree with it, as to you, the dole, which is what this thread is about, is a given right, not a gift.

Even if say 80% of it was quarantined it would save money and provide more kids with essentials, which, by the way, is the reason this dill of a minister wants to increase payment, the kids.

An increase in the dole, without addressing the waste, will mean an increase in waste, simply because these people who waste their prescious tax payer funded gift, are given full rein over how and when they spend it.

I do not wish to enter a debate that imply s every person on welfare is a criminal.
Burr right up! every time at the thought they are fixed Labor voters and therefore bludgers!~
Rechtub did you read my posted link here.
Is paying welfare to those middle and high income earners a lessor crime than paying it to the very poor?
Welfare wasted on the rich is as bad as any waste.
Welfare includes pensions unemployed and disability, in my view Baby bonus is welfare and the costs to run all of this comes in to that over all calculation.
Rechtub both sides have changed welfare very much in the last 40years.
Labor is in trouble for telling single parents to return to work after the last child turns eight.
Do we all understand cutting waste can more than pay for the true needy to get more?
And that a fact is we see massive fraud every few years uncovered, but that the system let it happen.
An unemployed person, asked as you did here, to work 40 hours, reduce it to 36 if you like.
Would at minimum wage have mostly earned his/her wage on the morning of day three.
No absolutes in welfare, not Labor voting parasites lining up to defraud us.
Each year Rechtub, people kill them selves, because they have no job and no chance.
A day will come, it may be a Liberal or Labor government, that sees us get both a return for welfare and as near an end to fraud as is possible.

Let's assume that there is a case for increasing the dole.That recipients don't currently live a decent life.

Why does Labor reflexively assume that they have to increases taxes to increase the dole.

A few days ago they announced they'd give $75m to 'the arts'. But surely its more important to give dole recipients a 'decent life' than to subsidise this or that theatre. So take the money back and divi it up among the poor unemployed.

And the government recently gave an additional $10m to the ABC. Wouldn't it be much better to share that with the poor? Indeed close half the ABC and the poor (and a lot of others) could really live a decent life.

Close down the Climate Commission, the Arts Council, the BER and the NBN and we could have a real decent life. Indeed go through all government functions and work out which ones could go in the name of giving these poor people a decent life and we would find that there are lots of ways of doing it rather than raising taxes.

But alas, that's not the way Labor thinks.