Lexi, "Voters usually get it right in the end"

That implies that voters get it wrong and some form of benign dictatorship is required. There are those who believe they always know best what is needed for people. First, we must resist them.

I don't believe you mean that at all. Like the rest of us you are becoming jaded by the political circus, the daily show that the media need for ratings. Fortunately there are good people in parliament and they are not all on the one team. How they influence their own party where there is a daily demand for populist policies and a lot of back-door decisions by inner cabinet is a vexing problem. Sometimes the only solution is a Spring clean and try to start afresh.

Keep positive and rest. Your deep spirituality must be some solace, a balm in that.

I would be very careful of those who think they know best

Bazz you draw along bow, have you considered your view?
From my post history has anything I have ever posted said other than my team needs massive reform.
Show me Bazz who of you, the fixed on welded Liberals who ever say such about their team.
Tell me no terminological inexactitudes, problems exist.
Look only at this mornings headlines, from England, a ex Minister, and his ex wife, sentenced to 8 months in prison, each of them.
For fraud involving who was driving a speeding car.
A NSW Minister National party, committed that crime and was forced from office, but why not prison.
The links I speak of, are on the public record, why? do you jump so readily on unions? yes they are the power base of some.
But if you understood, it is them, the right, who took on the true dangerous left and won.
The 1950,s left, the refusing to send mail to pour troops in the Asian War, scrabbled headed left.
The simple truth should be clear, my wish is reform,an end to power brokers, prison terms longer that 10 years for the NSW FILTH.
Not destruction of the only true reformist party in our country.
I recommend those gloating at Liberals coming victory, Labors choice to run dead/Gillard, under stand Abbott is not Howard,s shoe lace.

I don't understand the point you are making.
I had pointed out that your loyalty might be misplaced.
You appear to have more loyalty for the union or the Labour Party
than for Australia. Otherwise you could tell us who was behind the Rudd dismissal.
I suggested it might be that you were protecting the AWU.
I would not say I was a welded on Liberal but I have for some time now voted Liberal.
I think that famous saying "The Faceless Men" is very real and maybe
more so now.

However I think both parties are failing us in the way they are
ignoring the future economic tribulations that we are facing just
because they are more than three years away.

Yes Belly, if any Liberals committed the offences similar to those that Obeid and McDonald and Thomson and Gillard are ALLEGED to have committed, I hope they too get 10+ years' sentences or whatever punishment fits the crime.

And if those Labor stalwarts DID commit those offences that they are accused of ? Then of course, 10+ years' sentences.

And if they are as innocent as the day is long, as pure as the blood of the lamb, then they should be raised to the hills, as martyrs to the cause of Justice and the People's Will, etc.

Labor or Liberal. Equal justice. Do the crime, and you do the time.

Lexi, darling, you have such a warm heart, but your comment that, "Voters usually get it right in the end", may be recalled over the next few months.

I hope you don't mind some of us rubbing it in when voters get it right in the end :)

Cheers,

Joe

Bazz you are getting on old mate.
Seems you dig up non-things from my posts and find it easy to blame the trade union membership 20% of this country, for every wrong.
I will attempt a thread to settle this issue and highlight the very real danger, in my view, that movement faces, if by the acts of SOME who gain and miss use power from that base.
Loudmouth yes very much agree.
But lets be honest, even the cab drivers taking me and others to ALP state conferences knew Obied and his right faction, once the very engine room of National Labor!
Was as rotten as he is.
My words are for one reason, my party has been used, increasingly from within.
The suits own it, are so remote from my hungry childhood we are a different species.
My country deserves much better than Gillard, as slippery as an eel and not a hope of victory.
Every day!polls say Rudd would win, maybe only lessen the blow!
But he if returned would tell us reform not hiding the filth is under way.
This country needs a party of reform, in admit it will not be ever again of the true left, because voters insist, unless they are hungry it not be.
My opponents in my life,s loves the Union and party, are blind!
If we enter opposition as the dirty rug Gillards installation sees us and without true and honest public shameing of the NSW filth we stay, in opposition.

Belly said;
Seems you dig up non-things from my posts and find it easy to blame
the trade union membership 20% of this country, for every wrong.

Previously Belly said;
If I named, and I can, the power behind the dumping of Rudd, in and
out of Parliament, I would be considered a traitor.

That is what I was asking about. It is not a "non-things" from your post.
I don't know who was behind Rudd's dismissal.
You say you do. I just asked why you would not say who it was and
questioned whether your loyalty was misplaced.