Free enterprise and capitalism is not the perfect system but it is better than the alternative.

Gina Rinehart is constantly bagged for being too rich by half. Maybe she has some personality faults and treats her children badly, She could easily have just lived on her inheritance and retired comfortably on the money, but she chose to follow a dream and open her own mine. As a consequence she employs many people and creates wealth not only for herself, but the country is also a beneficiary. We need entrepreneurs like her in Australia. Unfortunately the envy of socialists like the Greens tend to restrain this sort of thing and all they want to do is redistribute to many that do not want to contribute, but who will always take the largess offered

I wonder if Paul1405 and his ilk realise that their pathetic existence is only possible because people with a back bone like Rinehart decided to dig a hole in the ground. Heaven forbid they'd get off their own arses, risk everything they own and create a future for themselves and many others, rather than wait for a hand out from those that have.

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Are mining billionaires determining Australia’s future?
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Yeah. They're evil. Those damn, hardworking miners. They've created the means for bludging green and labour leftards to sit on their fat arses all day and think of a 1000 ways to denigrate hard working doers and steal their labour.

What a future we have awaiting under these losers!

Are mining billionaires determining Australia’s future?
Paul1405,
Not deter-mining but under-mining.

Belly once again you surprise me with your anti Greens post. Are you saying you are prepared to, and advocating putting extreme right wing parties higher on the ballot than the Greens, if you are I have every right to label you a fascist, as I from time to time correctly label others on the forum. From your previous posts I do not believe you are such a person, a conservative yes, fascist no, most likely caught up in Labor hysteria about their imminent doom, which is most unfortunate in my way of thinking. I would never advocate putting Labor or Liberal last on a ballot when such action could result in the election of Nazi extremest, maybe that was the way Hitler came to power in 1933, some misguided conservatives thought Hitler could be controlled for their benefit, I don't know.
The Senate has a vital roll to play as a house of review, and the leading democracies in the world recognise this, and most have an upper house of parliament which performs this most necessary function. There are those, such as you who for short term political advantage will call for the abolition of the Senate from time to time, fortunately your cries fall mostly on deaf ears.
You ask; "When will we get the right to have one vote one value."
2010 federal election the Labor Party 38% of the vote, 485 of the seats. could not agree more

maybe that was the way Hitler came to power in 1933
Paul1405,
my understanding is that 1930's Germany was in a similar albeit much larger state of affairs to what Australia is in now. Too much minority interference & also too much outside dictating similar to mining here i.e. exploitation of the country & its people. The main reason the germans stood up was that they had a gut full of incompetence within officialdom, much like here now.

individual, is this the clanger of the century;
"The main reason the germans stood up was that they had a gut full of incompetence within officialdom, much like here now." So they pissed off von Schleicher and got Hitler, lucky Germans. Can we say so they pissed off Gillard and got Abbott. lucky Australians. I can see the analogy.
p/s i know all about the rise of Hitler.