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Misogyny and Negativism

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csteele,

It's unceasingly fascinating that runner attributes "hatred" to anyone who happens to dislike someone or something he himself is in favour of.

No-one, apparently, is entitled to espouse their preferences regarding pollies, etc without runner chiming in to inform them that their opinion is dictated by "hatred".

(I see Mr Opinion is getting in on the act as well......happy days....)
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 18 February 2013 4:21:27 PM
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Dear runner,

You wrote; “Fortunatley (sic) I don't believe one in four woman are that stupid.”

Fair enough, therefore you believe the polling was wrong since this is the only viable alternative.

Therefore when you wrote; “They have tried racist, sexist, misogynist, denialist and despite giving the sisterhood and national broadcasters a little to smirk about it has achieved nothing. Thankfully the polls indicate that.” you were incorrect in that assertion, or at least basing it on polling you now consider wanting.

Do you now wish to withdraw it or in the very least acknowledge it is baseless opinion?
Posted by csteele, Monday, 18 February 2013 4:24:11 PM
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I find it very difficult to believe that Julia Gillard did not know
exactly what Misogynist means. She knew exactly what she was doing.
The speach would have been checked over, even if it was without notes.

The proof is in the padding that went around the use of that word.
Such phrases "I will NEVER let THAT MAN blah blah blah" --.

It was deliberate and those that don't think so never watched it, or
only saw snippets on the TV news. It was vicious and it was meant to be.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 18 February 2013 7:14:19 PM
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Gillard's dirty tricks department and speech writers slavishly copied Hilary Clinton's employment of the misogyny sledge when she (Clinton) was failing in her campaign against Barack Obama. The tactic was intended to get women to vote according to gender. History shows the tactic was unsuccessful, the feminists were wrong and women made up their own minds. It is certain to rebound in Australia. It shows the desperation, lack of originality and lack of principles of the Gillard camp.

Gillard can't pull the same number of women to support her as does Rudd, the man she ruthlessly deposed and returned later with a mob to orchestrate abuse and geld him politically.

What do Australians take as the meaning of misogyny? When the story broke,
(1) ABC's Tony Jones to Wayne Swann: “So do you stand by the use of this word misogynist, woman-hater, in relation to Tony Abbott or do you want to step back from that because ... ?”
(2) Emma Alberici asked the same question of Tanya Plibersek the previous night.
(3) Leigh Sales asked the same question of Penny Wong.

Of course Australians understand misogyny to mean intense hatred of women.

What Gillard's camp are doing is playing fast and loose with the meaning of the word for political purposes. When they slander an opponent as a misogynist the intent is to label their opponent as a pathological hater of women. When they are challenged they hide behind the sloppy justification that the word could equate with 'sexism'. Like the thimbles and the pea, now you see it and now you don't.

Rest assured though that women see straight through shabby tactics like that. Julia Gillard doesn't fool women.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 18 February 2013 8:26:34 PM
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Dear Bazz,

You wrote; “It was vicious and it was meant to be.”

I tell you what was vicious my friend, it was Abbott's calculated, bullying, and despicable comment directly to the PM about 'dying of shame'.

My God why do people still hold this person up as any kind of leader they would want for this country? There are a couple of people in the Liberal ranks who, if they held the reins would definitely get my vote. In fact there are probably another half a dozen who would have me seriously considering my options.

But to contemplate ever giving this man my imprimatur via the ballot is totally unthinkable to me and should be to any right thinking, moral person.

This is a person with a track record for dirty tactics against other women in power, particularly another redhead Pauline Hansen.

To work so hard and underhandedly to get Pauline into prison then to fling the 'dying of shame' comment at a still grieving PM speaks to a hatred, one deep and entrenched.

He may not hate women per say unless they have the temerity to gain power then it is not holds barred. The PM was right to call him out on his statements regarding his views on women occupying positions of power. They are at the best archaic and sexist, and at the worst border on misogyny.

To do it once is problematic but to have exhibited this character trait twice labels him as a vicious, nasty piece of work whose probable rise to the role of Prime Minister should be of deep concern to those who value integrity in their leaders.

Here is my pledge, I will hand out how to vote cards for the Liberal Party at the next election if anyone other than that man is in charge.
Posted by csteele, Monday, 18 February 2013 9:24:44 PM
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csteele
The 'dying of shame' comment was despicable. This more than anything reveals Abbott's character. Certainly it is something he should be ashamed of, if that is even possible given the bottom-dwelling state of politics at the moment.
Posted by pelican, Monday, 18 February 2013 10:24:41 PM
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