Dear runner,

I was quoting directly from the same article that initiated this thread.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/galaxy-poll-shows-female-voters-choose-tony-abbott/story-e6frea6u-1226579510972

This is where sbr108 got their quote from; "female voters have rejected Julia Gillard's claim Tony Abbott is a misogynist and are preparing to elect him prime minister despite some concerns about his "negativity" and views on abortion." and is also the article I directly quoted from with “25 per cent agreed Mr Abbott was a misogynist”.

So are you saying the poll was wrong, or the article, or sbr108 for quoting it in the first place? The last person you are able to label incorrect is myself or alternatively you really do think a quarter of Australian women are dumb. Actually as an Abbott apologist this probably fits.

Whatever does having two daughters have to do with whether you're a misogynist or not? Did he have a choice about the sex of his offspring?

The term has changed it's meaning (like so many others in modern times) and you're really arguing about semantics.

The fact remains that women see him in a certain way and his behaviour, reputation and demeanour reinforce that view among many of them.

Whether it influences the way they vote is another matter, or are women considered just too dumb by some posters to consider things like alternative policies?

I don't think Mr Abbott is a misogynist but not because he is married with daughters. The latter is irrelevant as it is quite possible to hate women or see women as unequal and be married. If not there would have been many single men throughout the centuries. Whether or not 'X' percent of women or men think he is misogynist is also irrelevant. Polls mean nada on these sorts of issues. How many people were polled and from which demographic? Also just because people think something does not mean it is true, much has been 'thought' and much of it is nonsense depending on the prevailing groupthink.

Mr Abbott's problems are little to do with his alleged misogyny. It is his penchant for spin politics and lack of substance that are his weakest points.

Dear wobbles,

The point is that Abbott is not a misogynist. There is nothing in his behaviour or personality to indicate that he either hates or dislikes or mistreats women.

What we need to work out is why Gillard has constructed in her mind this warped image of him as being a misogynist. There is something deeply psychological driving her to believing that men are attacking her because she is a woman. I think her irrational behaviour towards men is something that would have fascinated Freud. If there is a word for a woman who hates or dislikes or mistreats men than it would most certainly apply to Gillard.

csteele

'an Abbott apologist this probably fits '

is this another abbottphobia term? My first preference for PM would not be Abbott but compared with Gillard/Rudd he is miles ahead. Can you invent any more derogatry terms to display your Abbottphobia or are you running out of them?

Julia Gillard once said that married women are nothing more than Prostitutes. At the same time she was having affairs with married men with families.

Now it is convenient for her to try for the women's vote. What could be more cynical, negative and patronising to women? Women have already demonstrated that they are not swayed by appeals to vote along gender lines.

Women are more than capable of making up their own minds and they do see through Julia Gillard.