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Climate of fear.

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Yup, mhaze - this article on the World Bank's report on biofuels and the food crisis, backs qanda's assertion that it was the Bush Administration and its "unchecked biofuel boosterism" that was responsible for the huge rises in food commodity prices that followed.

http://grist.org/article/biofuel-bombshell/
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 11:43:02 PM
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Poirot so you are a he?
Calm, it is as close to the truth as that poster gets in this thread, not even close.
Voting Labor Gillard is no certainty to be leading us and if she is she is not my party, we have valued folk unheard of in the tent.
Happy to be judged on my words, we will see less phooey science and more who believe in climate change.
Fact is more Australians think we should act than not.
While your side awaits Abbott's promise mining will end city,s disappear, costs sky rocket.
So many childish lies maybe one of our deniers writes his stuff.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 14 February 2013 7:09:24 AM
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I'd like an answer from both the pro & anti climate change brigades.
In far Nth Qld we haven't had a decent Wet for some 25 years. This season we've had about 4 days of good rain. By now we should have had a solid 6 weeks of rain.
How will the Carbon tax get us back to proper wet season rains ?
Posted by individual, Thursday, 14 February 2013 7:34:09 AM
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>>How will the Carbon tax get us back to proper wet season rains ?<<

Spend the tax revenue on cloud seeding.

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Thursday, 14 February 2013 9:28:23 AM
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Contrary to popular and mistaken belief, Australia's introduction of the carbon tax (leading into an ETS) was not, and is not, to mitigate global warming.

The 'carbon tax' was introduced to help transition Australia to alternative energy sources, sooner rather than later.

Sure, there are policy issues. However, the science is the science - regardless of the policies that flow from it.
Posted by qanda, Thursday, 14 February 2013 9:50:02 AM
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Wow, Poirot thinks he can prove so-called sceptics are in the pay of big business by linking to two articles. One talks about how rich the Kocks are and doesn't mention funding at all. the other is a report from Greenpeace that doesn't provide even passing evidence of the Kocks providing funding climate sceptics but just partially funding organisations who do lots of things, one of which is fighting the great myth. If that's the level of proof Poirot accepts then I can prove God exists based on this report from the Vatican and that wizards regularly visit the British PM based on a report from J K Rowling. (sarc off)

Yes, qanda, the transfer of corn and maize from food to so-called clean energy was done by the Bush admin in the US. But it was done at the instigation and cheering of the dedicated alarmists. Some businesses see great profit in going along with the myth. We see the same with wind subsidies in the UK and ethanol subsidies here. Normally, if business was to literally take the food out of the poor's mouth to make unwarranted profits the left would be screaming blue-murder. But on this ocassion they (the left) went along for the ride and still support those subsidies whereas it was the sceptic community that blew the whistle on the rort.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 14 February 2013 11:28:19 AM
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