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Would you consider founding a minor political party?

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It seems to me that as time has gone on, the two majors have morphed into a similar entity - under two different titles.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 8:54:59 PM
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Dear Roger Brisbane,

You wrote;

“We feel it is necessary to have the executive having final say. The bottom-up approach is hamstringing the Greens and we don't want to fall into that trap. Executive positions are subject to election.”

So the members do not have the final say on policy. What are you afraid of? That the great unwashed might come up with something the 'founders' find objectionable?

To me that would seem a little unfair. Actually I searched your entire site for the word FAIR and it was nowhere to be found.

Come on mate, I applaud the effort but the delivery lacks vision. At the moment all you have is a soft utilitarianism and if you think facts are the most important thing in driving policy then you have a problem.

Think about it.
Posted by csteele, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 8:55:14 PM
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I'm pleased to see that you agree that we
therefore don't need any more political parties.
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You think I Agree? Putting words in my mouth? Are you one of these people that believes people shouldn't have choices? The standard argument being that it just confuses people?

Never mind, stupid questions. You're a lefty, you hate that people should have a choice!
Posted by RawMustard, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 9:00:28 PM
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Csteel,

Fair is a philosophical word suffering subjective interpretation. One man's fair is another mans tyranny.

If you can show me how the FREE test, used to formulate & assess policy, fails to be 'fair' (in your interpretation) we will have something to discuss.
Posted by Roger Brisbane, Thursday, 31 January 2013 7:52:27 AM
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csteele/RB

“We feel it is necessary to have the executive having final say. The bottom-up approach is hamstringing the Greens and we don't want to fall into that trap. Executive positions are subject to election.”

As a member of The Greens I'll comment on the above. One of the great attractions for me to the party is that The Greens are such a democratic grass roots organisation. I have been a past member of the ALP and its caulk and cheese when it comes to party democracy, I can't speak about other political parties as I have never been a member. Take candidate selection, the recent Peris-Kneebone saga and how she was picked to top the ALP ticket in the NT. This could not happen in The Greens, simply because of party rules which empowers the membership to select candidates. Same applies with party policy, its through the grass roots membership as to what ultimately becomes party policy.
To me the only function of the membership in the Labor Party is to hand out HTV's on election day, not much else. Unless you are a member of the party elite and then you will have lots of say.
The rest of csteele post I agree with.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 31 January 2013 9:17:33 AM
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Paul1405, Sure, a minimalist bureaucracy with direct democracy and a deregulated liberal economy is “just another form of fascism”.

I think you're the one confused.

As for left and right, I know it's confusing, but there is a “left wing” and a “right wing” of both the Left and the Right.
Fascism was Leftist.
Take It Off is not.

“What does the red symbol at the top of your page represent?”

Obviously, you didn't read a word on the website, did you?
It's a woman's hourglass figure wrapped in red tape.
I'm sure Hitler would be thrilled at the decadence.

I already stated I was “trying” to start a party.
You need 500 to register, not to start.
You start with one.
Posted by Shockadelic, Thursday, 31 January 2013 9:44:24 AM
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