Hi there BELLY...

Your recent thread to SUSEONLINE, was excellent my friend ! I reckon you succinctly encapsulated exactly what needs to be done and who should be leading your Party in the next election.

My knowledge of politics amounts to nothing really, but something I do know, as far as Ms Gillard is concerned, she has absolutely no credibility at all. Personally I'd need to establish the truth of anything she said. Such is the level of trust that I have in my Prime Minister. In fact I'm totally ashamed whenever she has a need to interact or greet with oversea's leaders.

Probably more embarrassed than ashamed. Imagine if you will, when the head of a Nation plans an official visit to Australia. He receives a formal briefing from his foreign affairs people. They inform him the Australian PM is a well known liar and can't be trusted

That leader must think very very little of us, as a people. for putting up with this self-perjured Prime Minister of ours ? Roll on the election eh BELLY !

Speaking as a man what's causing me to turn up my nose at all the political parties is the across the board, unisex bitchiness thrown in our faces every day. Males like Rudd, Abbott, Turnbull, Bandt and Katter are unmanly, fake "blokes", martinets and wimps while their "empowered" female colleagues are the very opposite of the strong women real men respect and love. There are no strong men and women in politics, no leaders, no fighters or loyalists, parliament's ranks are filled with craven weaklings, obnoxious prigs and teacher's pets,
it's no wonder that authentic bottom feeders like James Saleam and Australia First are gaining a following.

Yes Belly, you are probably right that many men do dislike Gillard as PM,
but on the other hand , the vast majority of women can't stand the thought of Abbott as PM either!

Maybe politics is really decided more on gender issues than we are willing to admit?

Bazz, you raise an interesting point there, as I also believe there is little doubt that a swap from black to white would have caused an outcry.

I guess it's simply another case of discrimination, when it suits.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/obeids-trust-is-the-best-ad-for-tax-reform-20130124-2d8p9.html
Thanks all, the link at first may look unrelated to the thread, it is at the very heart of the issue.
First, for the most part we know little about politics.
We, all of us, tend to grab at head lines and run with them Sorry but it is true off many not just here but in the nation.
Why is the link, about pure filth relevant?
It too, is about the family who CONTROLLED THE NSW Parliament POST CARR!
In need of a figure who could steady a boat in danger of sinking Labor, my much loved party, KNIFED Rudd.
Gillard, from our left, now right, who would stand naked in the street to rule, is in relation to a liked public figure, not even in the race.
For get the anti candidate junk, she is a good candidate, IF SHE HAD HISTORY of party membership, and IF Madam knifev was not dumping an enemy.
Look see my post about ex,my words here have seen me become that ex,to all but my past members.
My party has its head in the sand, those of us brave enough to see the election loss, unless we face Abbott, are turned on.
Yet had Gillard the intelligence, to find a way to get both this candidate and Noel Pierson in to the house?
The toucan of this move would be seen as other than touanism if she actually put the two in power.
Mundene, sorry from inside the tent, is not what he seems and never will be.
So soon be foot,y time , the only game, NRL Gillard as a coach would put the half back andb five eight in the front row and the front rowers on the wing.
It Time ALP dump her do it now.

Belly said "My party needs reform, in this area right now.
And end to power brokers putting fellow scum bags in seats is over due.
Currently Representatives of membership should select the candidate.
Just a thought, why not reform the selection process,"
We know what a disaster the 2011 NSW State election was for the ALP, a huge swing decimated the party. You would have thought the alarm bells would have rung and party reform would have been top of the bill, with the candidate selection process being high on the agenda, no more back room deals, no rewards for past favors,no none of that, you would think party democracy would be the new name of the game. When the first opportunity arises for the ALP to enter a new light, I refer to the resignation of the ex-premier 'Hairdo' Keneally, who promised the voters of Heffron to serve a 4 year term come hell or high water, alas after 17 months the call of basketball was to strong, and unfortunately exit one "Hairdo'. Does this trigger new found ALP democracy, one would think so. No, what happens a Sussex Street deal is done and presto, some half a million bucks later, the cost to the NSW taxpayer for a by-election, the 60 year old Mayor of Botany Cr Hoenig is installed in the safe seat of Heffron, no democratic pre-selection, Hoenig got the job. What happens next, who's the new Mayor of Botany, Keneally, no not the Kristina but hubby Ben. Why does the man with no profile, hubby Ben want to be the Mayor of a tiny Sydney Municipality, it sits in the middle of the presently Labor seat of Kingsford Smith, I'm sure you can work out the rest for yourself, 2016 and all that.
Win, loose or draw nothing will change with those that exercise the power and control within the ALP.
Rank and file members are very important to the Labor Party, who else would be dumb enough to hand out their 'how to votes' on election day.