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The Forum > General Discussion > The Seas are Rising, the Earth is Flat.

The Seas are Rising, the Earth is Flat.

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we don’t control it, the sun does, and it controls the winds
sonofgloin,
you're right we have no control but we're definitely aiding the extremes. By putting up ever more heat-reflecting structures (roofs), more concrete surfaces, more bitumen roads etc we're actually increasing the sun's effects to increasing temperatures & wind. Also, at the same time we're increasing rain run-off with this infrastructure & in turn decrease the ground's ability to absorb water.
We simply need to introduce restraint in putting up ever more buildings. we wouldn't need them if we curbed population. Everyone can still make a good living in sustainable no-growth economy. There just won't be so much obscene wealth but hey, get one of those wealthy people & let them go very thirsty one day & see how much they'll be prepared to pay for a bottle of water. Remember "a horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse".
Posted by individual, Sunday, 20 January 2013 4:08:36 PM
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I'm yet to find my book on the Flat Earthers but I do remember a wager involving Hampden and Wallace.

Here is Wikipedia's take.

“a supporter by the name of John Hampden offered a wager that he could show, by repeating Rowbotham's experiment, that the earth was flat. The noted naturalist and qualified surveyor Alfred Russel Wallace accepted the wager. Wallace, by virtue of his surveyor's training and knowledge of physics, avoided the errors of the preceding experiments and won the bet. The crucial step was to set a sight line 4 metres (13 ft) above the water. Despite Hampden initially refusing to accept the demonstration, Wallace was awarded the bet by the referee, editor of The Field sports magazine. Hampden subsequently published a pamphlet alleging that Wallace had cheated and sued for his money. Several protracted court cases ensued, with the result that Hampden was imprisoned for libel and threatening to kill Wallace. Wallace, who had been unaware of Rowbotham's earlier experiments, was criticized by his peers for "his 'injudicious' involvement in a bet to 'decide' the most fundamental and established of scientific facts" “.

Sometimes laying the evidence before their very eyes still isn't good enough. Beware the ardent deniers though as history shows threats of violence can be made.

Gentlemen the earth is round and the physics and impacts of AGW are real.
Posted by csteele, Sunday, 20 January 2013 5:23:32 PM
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<<Gentlemen...>>

How very sexist of you, CSteele!

It sounds like you're still very much in the-Earth-is-flat era.
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 21 January 2013 6:26:49 AM
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SOG I will continue to like you as an Irish bloke.
And laugh about your views and assurance you can contribute so powerfully to debate by ignoring truth, science and common sense.
Well done!
Posted by Belly, Monday, 21 January 2013 6:45:22 AM
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Let us take a slightly different tack.

Lexi, Belly, Csteele, Poirot, 579, Wobbles, Wm and others who believe that humanity’s CO2 emissions do change the climate. Do you agree with a Carbon tax? If so tell me what it has achieved and future prognostications.
Posted by sonofgloin, Monday, 21 January 2013 12:55:20 PM
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The major players in wind and solar are the power generators, where there is no carbon tax.
There is no reason for this move to change, while we have a carbon tax and forecast to get dearer. That is a pretty good reason.
Posted by 579, Monday, 21 January 2013 1:07:59 PM
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