I noted this week that the media has again been pushing the oceans are rising propaganda via some report from a UN delegation, followed by a Labor politician declaring it is all over bar the shouting.

The report shows a 1.7mm sea rise, but our own Fort Denison’s records that stretch for 90 years reveals this:

“The Fort Denison data clearly shows a period of reduced sea level rise over the period
1986-2007 of 0.4 mm/year as opposed to 0.9 mm/year over the length of the dataset.”

Denison shows half the rise, and you need a 90 year average to get that. Sea levels in Sydney harbour went down for a ten year stretch…..DOWN…..

How can one justify the belief in the propaganda against simple truths such as the Fort Denison daily readings?

The exaggerations and lies that come from Green Headquarters and the Global Warming Industry in the Northern Hemisphere is easily refuted? Remember the hockey stick graph, they fudged the numbers and had to rename their religion from Global Warming to Climate Change.

Dear sonofgloin,

Just to quickly deal with your post;

“Figure 4 shows monthly average and yearly averaged water level data from Fort
Denison. The record has not been adjusted for anomaly drivers (such as MSLP), so
represents the measured water level at the gauge. The long-term sea level trend of
0.94 mm/year is clearly apparent, as are variations to the average rate of rise.
The last 20-year period, covering the data range of the other MHL gauging sites, is
associated with sustained El Nino conditions, generally associated with drier, less
stormy conditions in Australia. This causes a depressing of regional sea levels and is
seen as a slowing of sea level rise in the Fort Denison data to 0.4 mm/year for 1986-
2007 (MHL1881). This would imply that gauges across NSW with datasets of
approximately 20 years will underestimate sea level rise.”

http://www.coastalconference.com/2011/papers2011/Ben%20Modra%20Full%20Paper.pdf

Now to attend to the interesting point raised in the thread title. At what point do the AGW deniers become the modern day equivalent of the Flat Earthers?

The FE guys still persist even today in a vastly weakened state but they were still incredibly prevalent even in first half of last century. I read a rather captivating book on the topic a few years ago and will have to dig it up again. What will be our 'photograph from space' moment or will the nature of the topic forever deny us a definitive point when the majority of those who supported the deniers cause quietly walk away en-mass leaving the mentally feeble and the embarrassingly eccentric on the barricades?

Some of the more vocal opponents of AGW will have invested too much ever to admit their folly but there is enough evidence that once strident supporters and now being more equivocal with their pronouncements.

Ah what interesting times we live in.

Even a decrease in the rate of rise is still an increase in level.

The sea level did indeed drop between 1980 and 1990 but then rose rapidly back toward the trend line.

Taking a convenient part of a graph to suggest an overall result is not a valid argument.

This is what wingnuts like Andrew Bolt base his bogus selective claims on -
http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=47

Also, the term “Global Warming” was deliberately changed to “Climate Change” (both terms are valid but not entirely interchangeable) – not by the AGW supporters but became more frequently used in the media by the denialists.

Frank Luntz, a Republican political strategist and global warming skeptic, used focus group results to determine that the term 'climate change' is less frightening to the general public than 'global warming' and advised the Bush Administration to adopt that term . He has since reconsidered his position and now believes that humans have contributed to global warming.

csteele,

"..What will be our 'photograph from space' moment..."

Hows this for starters?

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=80152

Yeah snap up the bargains at the Beachside resorts. Oh that's right their are none. Hmm!

Sonofglion I take it you researched the subject?
Put as much research in to it as you did in backing arjay up about America blowing up the twin towers.
Have a good day bloke.
But like any comment, from any one, including me, do not get too upset if folk laugh at this or any one.