With all the choices at hand, it would be hard going to find a replacement for Julia. So motivated and person friendly, It is probably best left as is.

Why can't they recycle Bob Brown as Labor leader? He has done the job before. The Greens know it was an injustice that Julia got paid for it.

Lexi>> Thanks for that. I've certainly got a great deal to learn.<<

Lexi, my family was red as red labor, involved at branch and state level. I was indoctrinated into football and Labor politics at our dinner table. They were the only subjects discussed and I only discovered that there was a conservative party when I entered uni, an overstatement of course.

My father turned his back on the party in the 1970’s because of the Lima agreement. From that point on, old Labor was dead. A centralist party emerged with young things that had been indoctrinated into the Fabian scheme of things and that is to bring everything down to the lowest denominator like in the old USSR. Doctor or train driver the only elitist class are the politicians and party hierarchy.

We have an international socialist movement for workers, but the Fabians are like the old Jesuits, the storm troopers of the movement, they indoctrinate not annihilate.

That the European Banking Cabal controls the fiscal globe is evident, you just follow the money. But with the global Fabian agenda for control you follow the administrations. The latest blow in from the northern hemisphere is Nicola Roxon’s gag legislation, where you can be convicted if someone takes offense to your views. They are pushing it in Canada, USA, and England….and now here; a global agenda instigated by bureaucrats….Fabians.

Lexi my belle, not every machination is a conspiracy, but as modern technology empowers those who have the access to it, while at the same time that we steadily lose our right to verbalize our dissent, we become powerless victims, where the people work for the state and not the state working for its people.

Not much difference between Socialism and National Socialism really.

Dear SOG,

You're beginning to scare the daylights out of me.
All this talk about "Fabians" reminds of the scare
tactics of "Reds under beds." When in actual fact
the Americans with their "propaganda" were just
as lethal (even more so perhaps, because they were
supposed to be the 'good guys').

I like Penny Wong from what I've seen of her on
television. She remains calm, sounds intelligent,
and answers questions with reason and calmness.
Something we could use in our country's political
arena. Besides I had always assumed that the ALP
was for the underdog. Who was it that gave us
Medicare, a fair wage for workers, Supperannuation,
and the list goes on. Sure they're not perfect -
what party is. But I'd sooner trust a party that
sees the bigger picture and does provide us with
at least the basics in services - than one who's
obsessed with budget surpluses and the cutting of
services, while providing all sorts of tax loopholes
for the rich.

In the interests of straight talking and fact, it is quite a coincidence that so many past Labor leaders have been Fabians.

Just taking two easy examples of senior Labor politicians with Fabian connections, Julia Gillard listed membership of the Fabian Society in her parliamentary register of interests and Penny Wong has addressed meetings of the Fabian Society. See here,

http://www.pennywong.com.au/speeches/queensland-fabian-society-queensland-public-service-club-brisbane/

Lexi>> I like Penny Wong from what I've seen of her on
television. She remains calm, sounds intelligent,
and answers questions with reason and calmness.
Something we could use in our country's political
arena<<

I like Penny Wong, gutsy chick, but at the end of the day she serves a global agenda. Lexi all parties have factions. In fact your mention of the freemasons being associated with the conservatives globally, both politically and economically I believe that is true. But the Masons are associates, not a creature of the conservative movement.

Whereas the Fabians are the socialist “A” team, not all global socialist parliamentarians are Fabians, but the ones that matter are. And when they get together they aint talking national party politics. They are the spearhead of the global agenda, in conjunction with global bureaucrats and U.N. policy makers.

The bloody U.N……..it is the vehicle for the Fabians socialist engineering agenda, and the global fiscal agenda run by their opposition the European banking Cartel. Conservatives and socialists handing down mandates from Europe that change laws in Australia. We are crazy.
TBC