Paul,

Do you just make things up as you go along?

Firstly, Juliar was forced into this royal commission after the newspaper headlines, and the call from Tony Abbott and the coalition for a Royal commission. So your BS about Abbott letting this go by the wayside is a blatant lie.

Secondly, if "In my view this is one of Labor's best." then we have a good measure of green's standards. In Paul Kelly's words this is the first time in history a RC has been announced by the PM when the PM clearly knew little to nothing about the issues.

This is half RSed action rushed out by labor in response to political pressure. Labor clearly had no idea of the terms of reference, or even that without the cooperation of the states, the RC would be constitutionally invalid. That child protection and policing are both state issues leaves the federal government without a mandate, and seems to have escaped labor's tiny brains.

SM,
In answer to your question:
Do you (Paul 1405) just make things up as you go along? NO!
p/s I phone my friend Lee first and she makes things up for me. Not true but it should make you happy. NEXT!

What about the Liberal Parties answer to Fatty Arbbuckle, that conservative leading light Alexander Downer with this "Of course, it sounds like a good idea (Royal Commision)" But, there is always a BUT
"Sure, there have been pedophiles in the Catholic Church....a pedophile in a public school's out-of-school-hours care. And I know of an Anglican church in SA where sexual abuse of children occurred."...."So let's just cut out the trashing of the whole of the Catholic Church."
Is Downer an appoligiest for the Catholic Church, trying to deflect blaim, or is he trying to do some political point scoring to take over the Liberal leadership in SA, or both?

Paul,

If you didn't just make it up as you went along, then you deliberately lied.

Next that "conservative leading light Alexander Downer" Who is no longer involved in politics other than the occasional commentary, did not try apologise for the Catholic church or deflect attention. He agreed with the RC, but stated that there have been child abuse cases in other institutions as well such as the Anglican church and state care. To single one out would be both unfair and missing the point.

I noted earlier that this included the Labor party of NSW that tried to cover up for Orkopoulos and punished the whistle blower, amongst others.

I believe that marriage was banned for Catholic priests after the 13th century. Forum members may be able to shed a little light on this? I think before the 13th century even the Popes had wives or concubines but the church stopped priests marrying to preserve the churches wealth and prevent priests passing personal wealth to family on their death.
It seems ironic that the Catholic Church may now have some of its wealth eroded by claims against the church for paedophilia and other predatory sexual behaviour by priests.
I think it is time for the Catholic Church to become a little more flexible and allow priests to marry also the time has come for women to be trained and accepted as priests. We need to throw off the similar medieval shackles that have locked Islam into such a backward time warp.

No doubt the professed atheist Ms Gillard would be more likely to support this Royal commission than the bible thumping monk. and I am a liberal voter.
As for having its wealth eroded, Do you not realise that any payments for wayward priests are added to the cost of running the school and us taxpayers end up paying for it? Rome still wants its tribute.

This issue is too important to be side track by politics.
Paul I came to the thread full of genuinely felt annoyance at the claims made about Gillard, they had no roll to play in this issue.
Not getting soft, but truth has value, a few posts above shadow ministers one to you, I posted a link.
It confirms his words, Gillard was pushed.
Get rid of the attitude, the angry ant syndrome, it hurts your side more than it helps.
It resembles Abbottism.