qanda,

Thanks again.

I just wanted to add that people like me who are scientifically non-expert actually need the real scientists to take part occasionally. I take my cues from the people with the real knowledge and it is from them that I build my case - which might be useful for getting the message across on opinion sites like this where ordinary people talk these things over.

While I understand that it must be frustrating and seem futile when those ignorant of the science argue in bare-faced denial, often in an insulting manner, I too think that those with the knowledge need to "enter the fray".

(Besides, these days I eat denialists for breakfast....so we shouldn't be too reticent in engaging them : )

Cheers

Somehow I don't think my day would be complete if I neglected this link:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Debunking-Handbook-now-freely-available-download.html

: )

Again I get joy out of such deniers as SPQR.
It is fun thinking about the future as evidence grows and action too, to prove we need to act.
I see SPQR hopping around both feet in mouth trying to retract years of being wrong.

Poirot

<<You know, after your abysmally failed attempt to hang me out to dry on the "Boycotting Jews, yet again" thread,>>

Aaah, Poirot, that thread!

I was going to return and put you right on that. But on further consideration I thought,naaaah, let poor Poirot enjoy the feeling that she has scored one (she doesn’t often get the chance to score anything!) let her simmer a little longer in her “I’ve been wronged” and "I've got proof" indignation.

But since you’ve brought it up again. It is not at all as you portray it.

It makes little difference that my first link (and I noted you only squawked about the first, you were reticent to examine the second) related to a side issue.

The key point was that whenever there is criticism to be leveled at Islamistists you are likely to be found tut tutting in the corner calling it hysteria, hate or something else way below you. However, should the chance come to criticize Israel (or the US,or practically anything from the West) you are more than likely to be found at the front of the mob brandishing the rope. And that is as the real Poirot –the one who investigates all cases of abuse without fear of favor – would say is INDISPUUUUUTABLE!

Now back to the point of my initial post –after that fine example of a broken wing display from Poirot. Have we, here on this very thread, seen another of those famous warmist “hide the decline” acts (not withstanding this time by a very much B grade cast) ?
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5468#149851

Ah Belly,
<<Again I get joy out of such deniers as SPQR.
It is fun thinking about the future as evidence grows and action too, to prove we need to act>>

But we have “acted”.

Didn’t (saint) Kevin and Julia (of Arc) save the world by signing onto Kyoto and introducing the carbon tax?

Ever since those events I’ve been sleeping soundly in the full and certain knowledge that the apocalypse has been averted.

In all honesty Belly, if there were more like you in the Labor party –of if you were the leader – they would get my vote every time.

SPQR,

Well thanks for confirming my opinion of your style.

Whichever way you look at it, you screwed up big time with your assertion in your post on that thread. It's just as I maintained, that you helicoptered into the Islamic Riot thread and plucked out my comment before dumping it into the other thread devoid of context - and you did it to score a few points. The fact that the comment in its original context was several million miles removed from your assertion apparently, even in hindsight, means nothing to you....fair enough, that's obviously how you operate.

And what did you expect from a thread like that? It was merely a chance for all the diatribe to be unloaded. Of course, the rioters were acting in a totally unacceptable and reprehensible manner - but a 600 post thread mainly filled with hate dialogue goes to show that not many OLOer's care a jot about about how we're going to manage the differences that are inevitably going to arise in a changing world...or do you think we can somehow insulate ourselves in little old Aus from Islamic migration?

Btw, I would have taken your assertion on the chin, if it had been factual, if I'd made that statement as you portrayed. The fact that it related to something else in a particularly specific way and that you still fail to acknowledge your skewing is my case in point.