Mine slept through the night except when going through a growth spurt which happened every two days and lasted 48 hours. Teething made mine bite other children, throw toys and swear at an early age.

I do agree, childcare is essential for the working single parent (see I said parent and you said “single mums” cause you Houel obviously hate women).

I don’t like it being forced on all children via pressuring parents, much like vaccinations. And you can’t be pressured into dropping little [insert appropriate childlike name] off at daycare because they wont let her/him in without aforementioned mercury filled poisons can you?

When my kids were being raised unsocialised I did more than when they started school and I kept wondering what to do with all this free time so started raising other peoples children and unsocialising them. It’s all for the gooder great.

I had heard that Nanny’s have special formulas for making babies sleep through the night Trevor.

Hey where are the females, what have you done with them? I think I spotted Suzy earlier… Foxy? Fractelle? Pelican? Bronwyn? Was it Antiseptic? Was it? Oh was it Cornflower? Was there a big show down?

TPP,

Well it is a dwindling population of women posters around here in comparison to when I first arrived. Lexi has disappeared lately - don't know why, and we're somewhat concerned it may be a health issue. Suze and Pelican pop on here only very occasionally these days. Fractelle/Severin was shown the door sometime around the beginning of this year. Pynchme bailed out ages ago....anyway, it was getting to me slightly, so good to see you back : )

WmTrevor,

T'was the night Australia won the America's Cup - and I was up all night (rare for me coz I like my sleep)...and my daughter decided at 13 months that she would sleep through for the first time - I mean I was up all night anyway!!

13 months… wow! Some children annoy their parents by not doing what is wanted. But only the really clever and prescient children wait to do the right thing, but in circumstances that somehow still cause annoyance to the parents.

WmTrevor,

Yeah, both my kids were slow to master the sleeping through thing, although once out of infancy they both became excellent sleep-throughers. I'll add that they only ever woke up for a feed and a change and always went down again with no trouble in a short space of time, so I can't complain : )

Gee I must be older than I thought.

I actually remember a time when women didn't have to go to work (unless they wanted to) and the man of the house could modestly support a family on his wage alone.

It was like that in the USA too (the "Happy Days" era - the post WW2 Great American Dream).

I wonder what went wrong?

In the USA case it was mainly the importation of cheap labor from Mexico that drove down local wages and the subsequent introduction of women into the workplace as a source of underpaid cheap labor.

As for paid child care - If You Can't Feed 'em, Don't Breed 'em.
Don't expect the taxpayer to keep subsidising what are essentially lifestyle choices indefinitely.

One day they will take it away and then where will you be?

TPP going to pull the pin on this thread.
Men and women do think differently.
My mind is fixed on the Mums and dads who MUST WORK the bottom of in income and lifestyle heap type.
The costs of child care not the right or wrongs of it.
So better to leave than let my views upset.
See you on another thread.
PS my targeted group mostly will never own a home, sometimes a car.