Belly, politically it would be dangerous for the coalitiin to change leaders. It would be easy for Labor to manufacture an excuse to go to the polls before a new leader was settled in and then play the disarray, inexperience card for all it was worth.

Turnbull faces the massive disadvantage that most of those calling for him to be leader are clearly left leaning in their orientation and unlikely to vote Liberal anyway. Abbott is not well liked nor trusted but in practical political terms it seems unlikely that it would be wise to replace him now.

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Ludwig>> Hey, it’s about 50/50, with Labor on the ascendency. So what does that tell you?<<

I'll tell you what it tells me Luddy, we need a first past the post ballot system.

579>> The lib front bench is not very impressive, and hockey is a mixed bag.<<

Seems that I can never find agreement with you 579. When you are defending Labor we clash and in describing Hockey as a mixed bag, we will again clash.

Hockey is no mixed bag, he is a zero, a dunderhead and dud whose mouth is obviously not connected to a hard drive. There is nothing redeeming regarding Hockeys tenure as a polly and he has achieved nothing except the taking up of space.

<< …we need a first past the post ballot system. >>

Soggy…. Why?

Pray tell, what’s the significance of this?

Of course what we really need is the optional preferential system, rather than the despicable antidemocratic oxymoronical compulsory preferential system!

So again I challenge you, not to bag me, as it's water off a ducks back, but seriously, go out there, go to your local church, crochet game, brige party, what ever it is you do and ask the question.

As for Abbott, hey, I'm no fan, in fact, I suggested a year or more back that the best thing he could do was shut up amd let Julia go about digging her hole.

But, in reality, the question must be, not whether the libs deserve a chance, but rather, whether labor have earned the right for another term.

Very few elections are won, and this one will be no exception.

Butch maybe you should answer that question, does lib deserve a chance or does labor deserve another term.
Hockey is a nothing, and taking up space.
How could anyone vote for libs with Abbott at the helm, we would be sunk in no time.
Julia is not perfect, but she is strong, and knows how to put Abbott in his place. How will Abbott go debating the economy. Hardly the right subject for him.
Not the right substance for a PM. Reckless and dangerous.