Paul first and clearly beyond doubt you are haveing your self on about 20%
The rest has been proved both true and counter productive.
Yes Labor has moved.
But consider this, honestly, would and of those great men be able to turn enough voters to such policy,s today to even get close to being elected.
Do not dispare about my posting the truth, about the filth, not party is not in need of that little Roman riding on the Chariot telling the current hero, you are not a God.
Those, in any party, demanding the dirt be swept under the carpet, and they exist in all teams, betray the party.
I need not swap insults about greens, no one does it better than them, self inflicted wounds.
20% was a grin, watch the next federal election, Bell curves have sharp drop offs once you near the edge.

Belly, a little bit of simple maths for you. I never claimed 20% of the total voters would vote Green and not Labor. Based on the latest Newspoll. Labor 33% Greens 10% which gives a total of 43. 10 as a percentage of 43 is, wait for it. 23%. Allowing for a bit of a drift a round figure 20%. I claim 20% of voters who would have given Labor their first preference, now give it to the Greens.
ARE YOU THE NUMBERS MAN FOR THE LONG BAY BRANCH OF THE ALP?
I didn't think I would have to spell it out for you, but seems I should have.

Paul good morning, hope you enjoyed greens conference.
Parking all those VW combi,s, all 4 of them, must have been hard.
Understand the crowd got close to a thousand.
But 555 came to protest against your mob.
I think next year you should book conference in a smaller venue, looked like two chook,s trying to fill a whole egg battery.
Enjoy your retribution on me, for accurately forecasting your party,s future.
Such is life the good and gentle Ned said, near here 11/11 Day the big bloke got knifed, Ned was hung, and ww1 ended.
So too is the greens Waterloo

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/obeid-lobbied-minister-over-family-company-20121109-293ec.html
EVERY Australian should read this link.
We should note it comes from the past.
But that the smell, the power and influence lingers on.
I have fought, with all my power, very limited to see Tripodi and Obeid unmasked.
Both played a leading roll in the very near death of the NSW ALP Right *Center Unity.
And the very near death of the ALP its self.
No two family's deserve the current unmasking more.
For interstate readers Mark Arbib, see his wifes rolling this link.
Lead the NSW right/Sussex street, destruction.
THEN went to Canberra, as a reward and took a seat.
He then coordinated , yes again,the Rudd knifeing.
If you think that is the end think again.
He has been head hunted, by James Packer!
And over saw the granting, by both party,s,a gift to Packer.
The new casino licence could have bought NSW $120 million dollars! it was free!
Now many including greens trolls target my party and me.
Yet I too have targeted my party, for the last 5 years in NSW.
The danger is we fight each other Lib/Lab while power and privilege rorts our country.
ALP past needs a new prison to fix, but watch the power at work, few will see the inside.

Belly as a Labor stall welt, I'm sure you will want to invest heavily in the Joe Tripodi Ghanian Gold Scam, if gold is not your bag, maybe the Russian Jet Fuel Scam will take your fancy, then again there is The Lawn Cemetery Scam. How do they make you rich, very simple, 'you simply give Joe all your money'.

Sorry I've been mis-spelling scheme but since I have already posted I can't correct it.

Paul you and I could once talk without anger.
I do not feel anger now, but you clearly do.
You got more than one word wrong there, but it does not matter.
Interesting however.
Are you an Emu? maybe Kangaroo?
See they can not walk backwards, but you could have, to fix any word you knew was miss spelled.
You seem about my age.
Did you just become a green or like me read and study politics for years to become who we are now?
Do you understand your current stance, a deeply entrenched spite is what I see.
Spite at the truth, Australia always was going to reject the greens.
It has turned you from debate to insult, from considered thought to stone throwing.
My expressed views on greens, as unpalatable as you find it, has always been shared by over 80% of this country.
Recent leadership changes and the actions of those leaders enrages most of this country.
Are you going to haunt Labor voters with old country party style slurs forever?
I see you as friend to those you have spent your life fighting, but no threat, Labor will rebuild in NSW it is well under way, a one term Liberal government is a real chance, near sure in Victoria.
And even QLD is going to see massive return, but not a win to Labor.
GREENS? if they used the power they have, very, very, soon, to do what Obama will, give ground they could be saved.
But they will not, the condition is terminal, like you they would rather abuse every one else than even consider the thoughts of the most.