If someone does not have a driver's license that could mean that he is not autoerotic. If he is not autoerotic he could tend to the business at hand. If he tends to the business at hand he could be autoerotic.

Gees Luddy, now you can't even get my jokes, & you feel able to pick a leader.

Of course he could only get by with out a licence because he had us paying for a driver for him.

I would almost prefer Rudd. Everyone knows he's a twit, but only the folk of NSW realise how bad Carr, who can't drive a car, would be.

<< Gees Luddy, now you can't even get my jokes, & you feel able to pick a leader. >>

HAAAAAA Haa hahahahahaaaaaa. Now THAT is funny, Hazza!!

Like, I need to get your jokes to show that I’m mentally competent enough to make a valued judgement about who should be our leader, or sumpthin!

Trouble is, there is no difference between the way you write jokes and your real criticisms.

In fact, a lot of your presumably genuinely held criticisms are very funny indeed! I could say that everything you write is a joke, but I wouldn’t be that rude! ( :>)

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Belly who knows if Rudd will reappear as our leader. And if he does, who knows if he’ll be any better.

My guess is that he’ll be back for another jab at the leadership, and may well win it. Afterall, he is certainly a manic pro-growther if ever there was one, so he’d be in good stead with those who REALLY control our government!

Malcolm will be on a high today, and Toni will be in damage control.
How long can he survive, Turnbull was only beaten by one vote. Abbott will resign from politics if he is beaten.

Bob Carr, Ludwig?

It is significant that the only positive statement that you can make about him is that he "decried the rate of population growth in Sydney for all of those years". For you, all that a politician needs is to chant along with Ludwig's population control mantra.

The man did absolutely nothing for NSW, despite being given every opportunity over many years. Unless you include being a preening, posturing popinjay, at which he was - and still is - a master.

Significant, too, that you actually recognized that he did nothing. Only you feel able to excuse his laziness, with this gem, "...[he] could not ultimately do great things for Sydney or NSW because he had no control over the very high rate of growth as imposed by the Federal Government."

Since when did a Federal Government "impose" growth on a State? How do they actually achieve this? People choose to live here - especially in Sydney - because it is such a great place. Why else would they put up with the high cost of living, the crowded roads and the pathetic excuse for a transport system? I don't see people being cattle-prodded across the border, weeping and wailing because the evil people in Canberra won't let them live where they want to.

There was not one single initiative of Carr's that was in any way hindered by Canberra's "population policies". I challenge you to name even one.

But just to cap it all, history shows quite categorically that NSW experienced net outward migration throughout his tenure. Everyone went to... Queensland, presumably to join the Public Service and laze around on the beach.

http://blog.id.com.au/2012/australian-demographic-trends/which-states-are-the-winners-in-the-migration-game/

A trifecta of rubbish, Ludwig. Well done.

Bob Carr did nothing for the State during his reign. He was elected on the basis that he appeared to be intelligent. What he patently did not do, was to turn that massive brain away from American History, and on to the problems of NSW. Instead, he chose to drift along until Macquarie offered him half a bar to "consult" for them.

A flake.

What happened to you on the ‘World food day’ thread Pericles? You know when you’ve been thoroughly trounced eh? http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=14230&page=0

And this time you’ve totally shot yourself in the foot.... again!

You say:

<< … especially in Sydney - because it is such a great place >>

and

<< Bob Carr did nothing for the State during his reign… >>

So Sydney and the rest of NSW stayed a great place to live, despite enormous population pressure and a state government that did nothing! Hmmm.

I suppose you’d reckon anything good that happened in that time was due to the local councils and the federal government and happened totally in spite of the horrible and hopeless state government eh?

It doesn’t add up does it Pericles.

<< He was elected on the basis that he appeared to be intelligent >>

And why was he re-elected at least twice, despite your assertion that he was doing nothing for his constituents?

He didn’t become the longest serving NSW premier because he was a do-nothing drongo!

Again, it doesn’t add up does it.

<< Since when did a Federal Government "impose" growth on a State? >>

What a silly question! The Feds are in charge of the immigration rate. Immigrants largely go to Sydney and Melbourne. There are obvious problems with this sort of growth in those cities, and it is obviously imposed upon those places and upon the state and local governments who are then predominantly responsible for managing it.

So there you have it, a trifecta of twaddle.

But wait, there's more....

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