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Yep, Bob Carr, who was re-elected a number of times and became the longest serving premier in NSW, and who decried the rate of population growth in Sydney for all of those years and who could not ultimately do great things for Sydney or NSW because he had no control over the very high rate of growth as imposed by the Federal Government.

It is this imposition of high population growth that is the great undoer of all our political leaders. It means that there is no chance of balancing the books. It means that a very large fraction of our wealth and of our taxpayer dollars has to be poured into building infrastructure and duplicating services for ever-more people rather than going into improving the lot for the existing population.

Gillard got it right in August 2010 when she first became PM, when she said:

“Australia should not hurtle down the track towards a big population"

“We need to stop, take a breath and develop policies for a sustainable Australia. I support a population that our environment, our water, our soil, our roads and freeways, our busses, our trains and our services can sustain."

But she has been unable to act this… at all!

Bob Carr holds just the same sentiments and would presumably have the ability to get the government to move in that direction, at least to some extent…. which is what we desperately need.

Gillard only made this comment against an increasing population because at the time she was stabbing Rudd in the back and wanted to be seen as the opposite of Rudd. Apart from knowing how to drum up rhetoric she has no knowledge base for acting successfully on her claims.

Bob Carr, who is an historian, is an example of a politician who does have a good knowledge of the world in which we live. He gained that knowledge through concentrated learning and research; Gillard appears to have got her knowledge from the back of a cereal box or from watching Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.

If ever there has been a PM that needed removing in mid-office, it was that great dud Rudd!

Gillard was his obvious replacement.

There was no back-stabbing from Gillard. There was only the most dismal level of mismanagement from Rudd, to the extent that the powerbrokers and just about everyone else in his party could see the need for drastic action.

I have no doubt that Gillard spoke sincerely with her above-quoted comments… which must have been very embarrassing for the manic pro-growthers and in-bed-with-their-big-business-buddies Laborites!

But what could they do? They could hardly roll the person they’d just chosen as the new PM!

So they just quietly made sure that she didn’t act on those sentiments, which they have achieved…. comprehensively.

Hey, it is policies that matter. The leaders are not so important, especially while the policy platform is so drastically wrong!

I am of the firmest possible belief that we should be geared towards the achievement of a sustainable society as the most fundamentally important political principle, and that it is as MAD as it can possibly be for us to be expanding everything at a very rapid rate, with no end in sight, in TOTAL opposition to a sustainable future!

The great advantage of a Carr Government would be a genuine all-out attempt to get Labor to shift away from record-high immigration and embrace the notion of a stabilised population…..

….. which is exactly why the all-powerful big-biz-buffoons and their all-too-willing political cronies will make sure he never gets the job!

Luddy will you never learn old mate?

If you still believe in that twit Carr, you can not have heard him buzzing like a two bob watch, after the UN "achievement". The fool not only thinks it was worth the waste of money, he was crowing like Keaton after his election win. His ego knows no bounds, which makes him a dangerous twit, not just a twit.

The man is a proven idiot, who did NSW great damage, from which they are still suffering.

Besides, you can never trust someone who does not have a drivers licence. In this day & age, that alone makes him a bit strange.

He's a good match for Gillard in incompetence, although probably not quite as dishonest.

Awww Haz, we’ve been over this ground about zillion times.

Of the current crop of pollies, Bob Carr looks like the best potential leader, apart from perhaps the relatively unknown but long-time Labor MP Kelvin Thomson.

It seems to me that you actively look for any criticism that you can possibly mount against someone and never even consider the possibility of maybe seeing some positive characteristics.

I mean, what’s not having a drivers licence got to do with anything? How have you managed to mount that as a criticism against poor old Bob?? If he gets by without driving, well good luck to ‘im!

Ludwig, like your self, based on only the post history, of you and others,I know the value of Bob Carr know too some know nothing about him,and are in no way balanced contributors.
History will to, his photo, me sitting with him, is along side me now.
He turned NSW around, and left only after failing to roll the influence peddlers who destroyed the party.
History will know of his GREAT NATIONAL PARKS more than any leader in our country,s past.
It will find no mud , some here throw it but it is habitual for them.
I value no opinion from unmovable cynics, the ability to see both sides impresses me.
Ludwig,our Bob, never farmed a faction, therefore and for that and his age only, he will not lead us.
I challenge your view of Rudd, given the chance he will win you over.
This thread must choke on Gillards ten point lead over Abbott, lovin it!
Yet it warns of CHANGE, Abbott is shaky, watch closely, Australia by its polling has left him.
Turnbull comes.
Rudd too looms, watch and see.