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Happy vs Unhappy Muslims

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Banjo, I'm with you on that one.

I simply can't understand why on earth we even entertain the likes of practicing Muslims here, as while I am the first to admit that there some great people among them, even they (Muslim leaders) can't control the grubs.

So, the only alternative I see is to rid our country of the RELIGION, not the people, as they are welcome so long as they don't practice this religion that harnesses hatred against humanity. Nit here, not ever, as this is Australia, a peaceful nation.

As I have often said, all are welcome, but they have to leave your baggage behind.

As for Belly's prediction of war, it's coming, it's simply a matter of time in my view.

I think in our PC created world, where softly, softly is the preferred option, we are simply seen as an easy target.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 21 October 2012 7:30:41 AM
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Belly,
Have read the other posts and always yours. I just don't like you refering to yourself as racist when I know you are not. Maybe you are right about a war. The number of the fifth columnists here would be a concern.

Butch,
How do you propose we can ban the religion of Islam. Is there not a clause in the constitution about freedom of religion? Like we cannot deport muslims that are citizens either. We are stuck with what we have, thanks to our idiot politicians.

The only course is to not allow persons to immigrate that belong to groups that have shown they cannot/will not integrate and have no respect for our laws and community standards. By that means we can keep the problem managable.
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 21 October 2012 8:41:22 AM
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Banjo "The only course is to not allow persons to immigrate that belong to groups that have shown they cannot/will not integrate and have no respect for our laws and community standards. By that means we can keep the problem managable."

So, by that statement, I assume you mean we should ban ALL Muslim/Islam followers from emigrating to Australia then Banjo? Otherwise, how would you know which of these people would fail to 'integrate'?

What would be the consequences of this action do you think?
The current Muslim citizens of Australia would be upset, to say the least.
If they weren't 'integrating' well before this sort of announcement, imagine how willing they would be to 'fit in' to a society that says we don't want anymore people here like you!
Imagine how angry the youth especially would feel? We would be asking for trouble.

Then we need to consider the predominantly Muslim countries of the world, including our very close Indonesian neighbors . Tourists from these countries certainly wouldn't want to come to Australia again if we say we will allow immigration from anywhere else in the world except Muslim countries. We can ill afford to lose this lucrative tourism trade.

Then we must think about imports and exports to these countries. There are several oil rich Muslim countries that may just refuse to trade with us anymore.
Financially, Australia can ill afford to do without these trading partners.

So you see, there is much more to consider than just having a knee-jerk racist reaction to a complex worldwide problem...
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 21 October 2012 2:17:05 PM
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I am afraid, Suzeyonline that the trade argument is a fading away argument.
Tourism and International trade is decreasing as the energy crunch
has more and more effect. Tourism is already being squeezed.

Everything you said is valid, but if the moslems complain they have the
solution in their own hands.

Anyway, why should we bother with all the hassles ?
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 21 October 2012 3:21:04 PM
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Hi Belly,
Unfortunately, if people are seeking Asylum, the international laws are very clear, that being, that people genuinly seeking Asylum must be processed. Until it is proven, or otherwise, we have to assume that these people are genuine refugees.
On a news item last week, I saw about half a dozen Muslim males, happily working in Queensland, they are elated to be there and even more-so glad to be working. They all stated that they love Australia and people here (Queenslanders) have been very supportive.

It is most unfortunate that the Press always seem (in my view) to highlight the negatives.

Also, the Mosques run by the Imams' (I hope my spelling is correct), preach their own ideologys', they do not have the same widespread dogmas such as Christianity. Therefore, if the Imam is a radical Muslim, then he is going to teach and support radical behaviour. Please, anybody correct me if I am wrong.

So called 'Normal' Muslim newcomers, come with thanks and gratitude, not to mention relief. It is the (what I call) the Rogue Imams' who stir up the emotions of some.

The Koran is the oldest religion in the Eastern World, as I understand it. But I would hazard a guess that it has been bastardised by some, to fit their personalities. We all know that Australia grew because of the diverse Nationalities that sought to live in Australia, I was one of them.
Let us give a little credit to a lot of Muslims who have been educated and have voluntarily assimilated with the Australian way of Life. I take my hat off to them....at least they are trying.
I have to say, that Islam is as old as the Hills, a gentle religion in its' own form.It had been bastardized over the Centruies, and, I suspect changed to suit the Muslim Leaders (in some cases). Personally I would welcome anyone to this Country, provided they pass the test of being a genuine Refugee.
Cheers for now,
Noisy Scrub Bird.
Posted by Noisy Scrub Bird, Sunday, 21 October 2012 6:37:06 PM
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NSB, this is not your regular immigrants that the media seem to target, as this is a religion that promotes very violent harm on humanity.

That's why i say, if they (muslim leaders) can't control their people, in our country, then that's their problem, not ours.

I say, they either fix the problem, or we remove the cause.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 21 October 2012 7:40:30 PM
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