Hehehe Haz, you must’ve ad a good weegend. You’re in fine form this Monday. ( :>)

Did the PM lie or not, I don't believe a definition is necessary or relevant DIAMONDPETE.

In my opinion, when she made that statement '...there'll be no carbon tax under...etc etc.

It is what her message actually conveys, into the minds' of all the many millions of people who heard her. If the ordinary Joe Bloggs out there in suburbia, believed that the PM was NOT going to introduce a carbon tax, would it have altered or varied his voting intentions ?

Or, for all you learned legal practitioners out there; '...what the belief's are of the ordinary man who travels to and from work each day, on the Clapham Common Omnibus...' the test of a 'reasonable man'.

I can think of several criminal fraud matters where, confusing, equivocal or fallacious language was employed, in order to deceive ?

Whether or not the PM, at the time she made that statement/speech, formed an intent to deceive the voting public. Purely for the purposes of exploiting or engineering a certain voter outcome ?

If that's your belief, well maybe she did deceive the electorate at large ?

Though, my opinion of politicians, all of 'em, I'd NEVER believe or trust them with ANYTHING. And to quote a well used passage (in part) from the doctrine of an organisation that I've had a bit to do with '...they're all wilfully perjured individuals...' !

What a sad stage we've reached in our country today.

Glad you liked it Luddy. I wrote it just for you, oh, & a few lefties.

So far, my $50 is safe.

Not ONE person, and not even ONE of the handful of far right wing radicals here, has been able to prove that the Prime Minister lied.

My goodness, they can't even read properly and follow easy directions, because they filled their posts with opinion, not proof.

Keep trying folks (but I think my $50 is safe).

DP,

You also lied, you never had any intention of admitting that Juliar did anything wrong. I gave you her words that she always intended to price carbon, but what more do you need? a lie detector read out.

Everyone knows she lied, and playing with semantics just makes you a fibber too.

All pollies lie but Juliar and Labor have raised it to a new artform.Hopefully the electorate will knock them out of the ring and we build a new party to replace them.

What we have is a whole lot of Labor parasites sucking of off the tax payer.They come first and the country last.