Lexi I read your link to Waleed the first time around.

We know that the wider Muslim community always apologises on behalf of the few.

I noted that Waleed conceded the behaviour was offensive and then finished with this summation:

>> One that's not about how we should be speaking out to defend our prophet and ourselves. One that's more about whether we can speak about anything else<<

He is inferring that free speech was stifled, that is the summation from this lawyer advocate, they are right, the rest are wrong. Bleeding heart Arad lawyers, save me, toughen up. Then this one again from Waleed the lawyer.

>> This is the behaviour of a drunkenly humiliated people: swinging wildly with the hope of landing a blow, any blow, somewhere, anywhere<<

Humiliated with exactly the same benefits and negatives that his fellow Aussie pleb has.
Swinging wildly with placards that demand beheadings….Give me a break Lexi dear, I can’t suspend the reality like others can.
TBC

The cops have gone softly softly with Arab criminals and Muslim zealots because of PC. I recall the NSW Premier telling his driver to “run the bastards over” in relation to anti LBJ protesters lying in front of the motorcade, and we were predominantly Muslim free then, they were Anglo kids.

Then this from Randa on the other link

>> I think people have the right to protest, but I personally don't feel that this did - that this served any purpose except to validate the stereotypes that most people hold about Muslims.<<

Once again deflecting the issue to a spinny free speech issue. They gathered, they marched, they assaulted police and freaked out the plebs doing their shopping. That seems like they got their message across, they had their day on the soapbox.

I may march down to Canberra with a “behead Gillard and Swan” placard…it’s acceptable; I will even line up a little one for the toddlers.

Sorry Lexi I don’t buy any of it, and for the record again, it is not a Muslim issue, it is a police issue, they do not put up with that sort of behaviour in the Middle East, not unless the rabble is doing the govt’s bidding.

I reckon Paul Sheehan of the SMH has it pretty right this morning.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/victimology-airbrushes-oppression-against-own-20120919-266wc.html

Banjo I posted that on the first thread.
Not sure splitting the thread in to three is for the best.
I do know, in my view, an extremist element, re-enforced by good folk trying to see only good, has taken that thread.
I just must say, let us hope for evolution to fix this worrying trouble,along with education free of bigotry.
But stay on gard for reality to hit us in the face like a brick, some third generation Australians hate us.
Wise and honest politicians would fix it no matter the costs.

Belly,
How about this speech. Do you agree? All governments are now looking to save expenditure. The ideology of MC is flawed so this is a good way to save funds.

Note. I have not looked for some years so I do not know what the current spending by fed or state government is on MC.

C:\Users\ADMIN\Documents\Peter Phelps MLC - 18-09-2012 (Proof) - NSW Parliament.mht

How would they 'fix it'Belly?
Islamic people have settled here now, and many are good citizens, just like all the other immigrant groups here in Australia.

All the Government can do is maintain law enforcement and punish those who break the law.

We can't just send all Muslims 'back to where they came from'.
We have to live with what we've got, and just get on with it.