The latest Newspoll results show that on the 2 party preferred vote (the one that matters) Labor and Coalition are now 50/50.

Also, Prime Minister Gillard is the preferred PM over Mr. Abbott by 46% to 32%.

The multitude of Coalition lies over the past year, their incompetent 70 billion dollar budget hole and the parliamentary behaviour of incompetents like Hockey, the 2 Bishops, Abbott and that drama queen Pyne (who continually abuses points of order), has finally come home to roost. The Aussie public is now waking up to what a disaster the coalition would be in government.

The Coalition's ONLY hope is Malcolm Turnbull as leader. There's no doubt, Mr. Turnbull will lead the coalition into the next election.

DiamondPete, dream on I say.

Have you noticed labor are not crowing about it, that's because even they know the libs have slipped, which simply makes them look stronger.

Fed Politics is like a game of snakes and ladders, only problem is, all the moves are down the ladder, not up.

My tip is a snap election.

An election has been tipped many times over in the last 3 years. Just because Mr negative has opened his mouth to often he has now said to much.
Mr Abbott is a danger to this country, and treats the Australian electorate as idiots. Time tells on the Abbott's tactics, as he was designed for an election about 12 months ago.
The carbon tax was a dismal failure, since then he doesn't have any ammo left, and no policy. The libs have driven into a vacuum.
Filthy politics on behalf of Thomson and Slipper, has gained nothing.
Further condemning the Labor camp of backflips ,lies etc will drive Abbott clean out the door.

579, I don't care who runs the country, labor or libs, so long as they stop the waste and miss management, something even the likes of you must admit is not one of labor's strengths.

I think the next election may now be won by those who can show they will waste the least and redirect spending towards our own people and on worthwhile, noteworthy projects.

Dear rehctub,

You should talk to Queenslanders, Victorians and
the voters in NSW to get their views on how well
the Libs are managing the economy. And while you're at it,
talk to both local and overseas economic experts and ask them how the
Australian economy is doing. It may surprise you.

I agree - the only hope that the Libs do have of
bringing in some economic nous into the equation is -
Malcolm Turnbull as leader.

Stop the waste and miss-management. That is a typical liberal line. A line is all it is, and does not hold substance.
To believe in that line is to treat the populace as sheep, one size does not fit all.
It won't be Dr no that will expose his hand for the people to pull apart, simply because their agenda is to drag people to a submission, that can-not be escaped.
The federal govt; is putting up money to help the 14,000 sackings from qld. The CN foe does not have that sort of humanity,
A misguided people, that pay dearly for a pre programmed agenda.

Diamond Pete I am an ALP member.
And believe me an activist.
I have seen threads such as this start only to blow up in the posters face.
I want a Labor victory.
But to what do you put our gaining in the polls.
Can it be Abbot,s lies, extreme lies and extremely often?
Surely not Gillard?
Truth is the first party to change its totally unwanted leader,unwanted by this country both of them.
Will be unbeatable.
And lead to the other side changing too.

Dream on fellers. The next polls will show this was a hick up, probably manufactured by labor to save Gillard from Rudd. No problem there from me, we could nothing worse than get KRuddy back.

Any of you who can't see the huge financial, & economic hole Gillard is diving into is a bit short sighted, or simply dumb.

A few predictions for you.

Gillard will never win election, or manage to buy one again, like the last one.

Turnbull will never lead the Libs again, & will either fade out, or become Labor leader. Probably the latter. People who could not see through old slim ball Rudd, appear to be unable to see through Turnbull either.

Tony will be PM for many years, & become much loved by any fair minded Ozzies.

Roll on the election.

What frightening predictions Hasbeen!
I will try one of my own.

Abbot will never be PM.

He won't be able to help self-destructing, as his true self becomes more and more apparent to the people.

As for LIberal's chances at the next election, we should always remember that females make up at least half of the eligible voters in this country, and I believe the vast majority don't like Tony at all.

Hi there SUSEONLINE...

You say that Tony A. will probably self-destruct '...as his true self becomes more and more apparent...' to people ?

How so ? To me at least (being a very far-right conservative), he presents as an intelligent, decent sort of bloke, who's married with three girls.

Sure, occasionally he appears uncomfortable with the way he answers questions, deals with the media, even while he's on his feet at the Despatch Box, in Parliament.

Is he an axe murderer, a traitor ? Alternatively, is our PM a lady of similar undesirable traits... a traitor or axe murderer ?

Obviously neither of 'em are. Yet all we seem to ever hear, is just what a dangerous, evil and vile man this gentleman is ?

Perhaps I'm simply too obtuse and dense to recognise these hidden peculiarities or 'qualities' of Tony are ?

Therefore, it's incumbant upon me to sense-out just what a dreadful individual this wannebe PM is ? Certainly before the next federal election, at least.

You never know, I may well be persuaded to cast my humble and futile vote in favour of Ms Gillard or Mr Rudd ?

Or perhaps that cerebral giant, the Hon. Peter Garrett MHR ? Who, I might add possess a rather obscure and unique forte or talent even, of being able to scream in tune !

Oh hello O SUNG WU.

You don't have to look far for Abbotts 'peculiarities' , as far as I am concerned.

Apart from his well known gaffs about women ironing and belonging in a kitchen, and the need to be a good, pure virgin for their man, I don't find his speaking voice and stumbling conversation professional enough for the office of PM.
I would be embarrassed to have such a man represent us overseas.

I don't like how he links his strong Christian beliefs to his politics, for example with his archaic views on abortion and no sex before marriage....for girls only of course.

His petulant dummy spits on camera on several occasions when he didn't like the questions put to him were embarrassing and showed more than a little underlying aggressiveness .

I am far from alone in these thoughts.
I sincerely hope Malcolm Turnbull returns to the helm.
I would then vote Liberal in a heartbeat....

hatred lead many socialist to be more concerned about a man who supposedly threw a phantom punch than they are about woman who slept around with married men with kids and lie. Go figure.

There you go again, runner - "Hatred lead many...." blah. blah, blah....

How so "hatred"?

Why ascribe "hatred" as a motivation to people who hold opposing views to your own?

Perhaps it's time for you to "go figure", and examine your own motivation to impugn other posters or people in general when you are making a point. It 's not necessary to insult others to put your own view forward - in fact, if you were as wise as you pretend to be, such behaviour wouldn't even enter your mind.

Suse there is something you forget to mention when you use, Abbott's no sex before marriage, & that is his belief in that as an ideal for all, not just the female half of the population.

Your post suggests that he thinks it should be only one way. If you have some evidence of this please share it.

Although non religious, I was raised to believe in chastity before marriage, & it would have been that way if not for the ladies taking me in hand so to speak.

Still I have a sneaking suspicion that we would be better off with that idea, rather than today, when we see 15 year olds sleeping over with parents permission.

Runner your post is pure insult.
You can in no way know if Abbott took that punch.
And from such an apparently bigoted person as your self the thought all Labor voters are socialists is uninformed.
Abbott will never be PM.
Long ago it was clear he and Gillard ride on each others failures.
Given a choice Australia would pick neither.
It is true, watch it, Abbott,s is pushing his luck within his party, they know,without him victory is certain.
Like it or not Abbott, the real Abbott is being run down not by his past but the present man, negativity and twisted truth.

579, the waste is there to see, so no need for me to elaborate once again.

As for QLD, I am opposed to what CN is doing, or more so, how he is doing it, too much, too soon.

However, he is simply cleaning up an inherited mess, courtesy of years of labor mismanagement. Ring a bell!

Hasbeen, the way Abbott carried cn about the virginity of his daughters before marriage being a sacred thing, and he himself, an ex-priest no less, had been worried he had fathered a child out of wedlock himself!
What a hypocrit!
That was enough 'evidence' for me...

So a man who has principles you disagree with is vile, but a vile woman with no principles is ok?

You would rather have a leader with no principles than a leader with principles you disagree with?

All makes perfect sense to me now!

No wonder the world is so screwed!

Dream on.Labor are finished.

the sisterhood hate their hypocrisy exposed. Thanks for summing it up Raw Mustard.

One has to wonder just where we would be now, had our brave diggers, many of whom lost their lives, acted like the modern day man you lot want TA to be.

Is it little wonder we have slipped so far, and are such a push over for the likes of these Muslim thugs, or these illegals arriving on boats.

Even Kevin was criticized for being a bully, when sometimes the only way to get anything done is to kick some heads.

Wake up to yourselves and see what this country is becoming.

We won't change things with a soft caring understanding person at the helm.

We need a true leader.

Susionline/Lexie did not see Poirot here yet.
Be assured you are in verbal combat at times with an empty beer carton.
Hasbeen my fellow gardener , if you think Labor has or could fix the polls, you have my sympathy.
Rechtub my butcher complaining mate, no wish to offend but you are in over your head.
Reality is the polls do not show other than near the true state of voters intentions, on the day it was taken.
TWO polls each different.
On race day we read the form study the horses droppings, not hard with Abbott they are hard to avoid.
Gillard got tapped,she knows she has to lift,her dads death stopped a show down.
She did nothing much, but Abbott did.
For every action there is a reaction.
And Abbott,s throne,despite Pyne and an internally unloved Bishop racing to kiss him he is no certainty to be there soon.
Rudd? if he gets a second chance we will go very close to breaking hearts on the beer carton side of the house.

Raw Mustard "So a man who has principles you disagree with is vile, but a vile woman with no principles is ok?"

Did you not read what I wrote above Mustard?
Why is Julia Gillard vile?

How does a man who has sex before marriage (and was worried he fathered a child, so obviously took no precautions) have more principles in a Christian sense, than a woman who has sex before marriage? (eg Abbott versus Gillard).

I would also add that most Catholics hold student Priests at an even higher moral and behavioural standard than the average man, and yet Abbott still had sex before marriage.
What sort of 'principles' does he have then?

Or is there one set of principles for men, and another for women?
Yes, I thought so...

Bernardi has been forced to resign, because he spoke his mind an the gay rights issue. Abbott can't handle people that don't think like him.

DP,

Beware of hubris. It has the habit of coming back to bite you.

Well you lost me there Belly.

Gillard = 46% preferred PM approval rating

Abbott = 32% preferred PM approval rating

What don't some of you people understand about that?

Abbott LOST the last election, at a time when any opposition monkey (other than Abbott) would have easily won it. It will be TWICE as hard for the coalition to win the next election "if" Abbott is still their leader. Let's face it, Pyne, Hockey and Bishop are professional whingers, and all very angry and immature, and TOTALLY unsuitable to lead any political party. The Coalition's ONLY hope is Malcolm Turnbull. He will almost certainly be the person leading them into the next election. Even then, they'll have a huge fight on their hands to win, because of Australia's brilliant economic performance under Labor leadership (recognised the world over by nearly ALL major institutions and ratings agencies).

Well said Diamond.

I agree Turnbull is their only hope.

Many people dislike Gillard, but prefer her over Abbott any day.
The Liberals will have to act on that well before the next election, if they want to go into the next election with a fighting chance.

Personally, I can't wait until they do!

Juliar failed to win the 2010 election that given the huge lead that Labor had, a goat could have won. She then proceeded to lie to the electorate.

Given the polls only a month ago and the difference with Nielson polls, I would say your jubilation is a little premature. Juliar's deceit hasn't been forgotten, labor's promised budget surplus has all but evaporated, and the council elections gave labor a hiding.

Shadow Minister "thinks" Labor hasn't been in government since 2010. Hilarious. Ha ha ha ha ha. The Labor victory in 2010 has set our country well on the way towards economic well being, and future prosperity, as verified by close to ALL international institutions and ratings agencies.

The 4 prominent Liberals, Pyne, Hockey, Abbott and Bishop are all very angry, immature people who are still spitting the dummy over their election loss in 2010. All 4 of them would be extreme embarrassments if any of them were PM. The Liberals need to look elsewhere for their future leaders.

We won Abbott lost Abbot has told more lies, in any single week of this Parliament than Gillard in her life.

Belly,

You mean labor, the greens and the independents won. Not Labor itself.

Gillard lies all the time. How about when she got fired for dodgy dealings?

Labor won the election. The federal Liberals would NEVER win without the dodgy and incompetent Nationals (the old Country Party before they sold out the "country" part of their ideals). Abbott himself tried to get in bed with the independents, but lacked the brains to even negotiate with a modicum of maturity. Abbott recently voted with the Greens on legislation. Abbott's a 2 faced turncoat when it suits his political needs. The public detests him, and for good reasons.

Nearly EVERY day in Parliament question time Abbott lies, by authorising and condoning dodgy electricity accounts from companies blaming the price on carbon for their 50 and 60 per cent increases over the past years. And guess what? Virtually EVERY time these bills are investigated and scrutinised, it is revealed the VAST bulk of the increases are due to poles and wires factors. As with MANY other Abbott claims, his lie list fills hundreds of pages, they are OUTRIGHT lies ..... and the Aussie public is finally realising this. Liar Abbott will almost certainly be ditched before the coming election, as the Liberals will very soon realise they can't win with such a 50s style religious, lying nutter at the helm.

Labor won 72 seats out of 150, the coalition won 73. Considering that Juliar started with about 54% 2pp in June she should have romped in. Since then she has failed to deliver every major policy she promised.

She lies every day in parliament, and is trying to buy votes with her $120bn black hole of further unfunded policy promises for 2014 and beyond.

You can't even count. Labor and Liberal/Coalition both won 72 seats at the 2010 Federal election.

Labor gained a majority of seats in the majority of states. NSW 26 to 20, Victoria 22 to 14, SA 6 to 5, Tassie 4 to nil.

4,711,363 people voted for Labor, while 3,777,383 people voted for the Liberal Party.

When you combine Labor and the Greens and the supporting independents we get a total vote of 6,482,857. When we combine Liberal and the several different National parties we get a total vote of 5,408,630. It's plainly clear the VAST majority of Aussies did NOT want the Coalition in government.

The 2 party preferred vote was, Labor 6,216,445 defeating the Coalition 6,185,918.

So, on every measuring stick Labor WON THE ELECTION.

Just like they'll win the upcoming election (especially if Abbott is still at the helm). But this time, the Labor majority will be greater, due to the great performance of our economy and the constant, daily lies from Abbott and the opposition.

Was that a scripted or off the cuff remark SM?
Watch Tony in question time.
If his hips swagger and his snear widens watch closer.
As soon as his lips move he is about to lie.

Is that Diamomd Pete, or Dreaming Pete!

Either way, keep dreaming Pete, however, be careful as you play follow the leader, as they are leading you up the garden path.

It is quite obvious, if you work, that your job is provided to you, courtesy of another's risk taking.

Labor are in for the flogging of their lives, brace yourself Pete.

Nice "try" rehctub; I run my own IT business and employ 3 people. Keep trying, ha ha. These days the Coalition is anti small business, and they refuse to vote for business tax cuts. They were a higher taxing government than Labor currently is, and the Coalition pandered to the top end of town with extreme corporate welfare handouts at the expense of small and medium business. The current Labor government, which is a centre right wing government, is MUCH more small business friendly.

Butch is a professional knocker, can see no good in anything. What happens in QLD isn't Australia. If you put your welfare on a boom surely there will be a bust. A sustainable level is what is needed.
The miners have destroyed manufacture by robbing business of trades. Maybe that will come back now.
As a nation we are in the box seat, while others are depressed. Abbott continually pulls the AU economy down, with negative rhetoric, and we still have 3.5% growth.

Labor has received more tax revenue than any other government in history, but still records a deficit. They are not capable of getting a surplus.

DP, your description of Labor as centre right defies logic, as that would put only about 10% of the country as centre left to left. I guess that you would consider the greens as a centrist party? What a joke.

Labor is the party of election promises broken perhaps you could show me one that they have kept.

Rechtub refuses to let facts get in the way of a good winge.
Fact is Labor is likly to be beaten still.
But even with the shady lady leading, gee I hope not, not a flogging.
Polls are instructive.
You can just about bank on them.
A trend can be seen, not a pro Gillard/Labor one.
An anti Abbotts group with in the Liberal party.
Now Turnbull equals a Labor flogging.
Abbott? we are a chance.

Abbott with his Tea Party rhetoric, is fooling himself. He doesn't believe the economy is growing at all. He hasn't been watching the news or he is blinded by his own rhetoric.
I think time is catching up with the noalition, there was supposed to be an election about 12 months ago. That is what Abbott was designed for, he is now out of his ground.
Bishop is calling for Tony to be left alone, as he is being bullied.
Abbott has a major deficiency with women, apparently goes back quite some time.
Abbott is trying to tell AU that pink isn't pink any more, in fact it hasn't been pink for a long time.

I just read an amusing blog by wixxy.com.au posted today about Tony Abbott , which just about sums up how I feel about the infamous 'punching the wall either side of a woman's head ' incident:

<"This is a man who in the past has been happy to use violence to intimidate females. When confronted with his past, Abbott had the opportunity to take the high road, own up to his thuggish behaviour, express remorse, and make a huge point about violence against women being wrong. Instead Abbott chose the “I have no recollection” method, then denial, and at last reverting back to the “I have no recollection” method when other witnesses came forward."

If, as Abbott sought to explain, this sort of aggressive behaviour was not in his nature, then surely he would have been able to 'recall' whether he did or didn't punch the wall each side of a woman's .... If he never did that sort of thing?
Yet another lie I think...

Yes, Abbotts days as leader of his 'Tea Party inspired' days as leader of the opposition are numbered , as far as I am concerned.

For the record, labor did not win the election, rather they lost it, just not badly enough.

I say this because they went from a huge majority of some 85 seats, to a dismal 72. Now you can call that a win if you like, afterall, it's a free country, so by all means have a lend of yourselves.

The sad truth is, the people lost the election, as the sitting government lost a large amount of their majority.

In other words, we went backwards.

Abbott against tax cuts you say, what, all 1% of it. Big deal!

Business does not want a free coffee per week,(what 1% would buy), they want less crap to deal with.

As for our economy, I will bet right now we stand a better chance of a large deficit than the promised surplus AT ANY COST.

Any of you wish to take that bet?

As for the country, you have to remember, the likes of VIC, NSW, SA were all hedging their bets on the likes of QLD and WA and their mining tax, which is looking more and more like another labor stuff up.

Where to now for you lot, or do you honestly believe our economy is in great shape.

I am appalled by the rank hypocrisy of the Labor supporters. (especially given their calls for the assumption of innocence for Thomson)

The Abbott incident is remarkable in that there is not a single corroborating witness to the event that has come forward, that the left wing at the Uni had form on fabricating "events" against Abbott, and that this has only just "suddenly" been remembered even when Abbott has been in the public eye for more than a decade.

Then to top it, the Coalition did not make any accusations when Juliar was clearly forced to resign after inappropriate conduct at her law firm, even when there is more than enough reason to suspect that she was not completely oblivious to the fraud ensuing.

Ha ha ha, is that the best you 2 guys can do? Hilarious. Keep trying though. The "facts" are, all the major agencies of the world have the Australian economy at a AAA rating, a feat NEVER achieved by the past Liberal government (during boom world economic times). The world's peak economic institutions view the Australian economy as a VERY good performer. Labor has had GREAT success in the economic sphere, obvious to all except the current Coalition economic illiterates who can't acknowledge it? Why? Because doing so will harm them politically.

The Australian public realises the strength of our economy, how we didn't go into recession because of good management, our low personal taxation, and how the economic future is being taken care of by investment in IT and education by our current government. This good management is clearly recognised the world over. I'm a small business owner, and red tape is half what it was in the past. Our economy is STRONG, compared to most similar first world nations.

Those are the facts, but facts don't matter when you're a Coalition economic illiterate.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/mission-rethink-for-abbott-20120921-26cab.html
The link should be of benefit to both rechtub and shadow minister.
Too those who go too far the other way.
At least by reading it we see how shaky both leaders are.
In Abbott,s case,we catch up, see the GREAT BIG CHANGE, that the death of the great big tax untruth has bought about.
It is my view, in rebutting claims of massive debt, we should seek evidence of that debt, compare it with the debt of America, England, in fact ALL of Europe.
After doing so, review with a clear head the way it saved this country from recession, we will see, it too, is a untrue a campaign not honestly related to our position.
Such open minded review,can explain the coming leadship turmoil in both party,s.
And just maybe, as only one ever hinted here, [GY] the election is not yet won.

Pete, if only it were a funny topic, I would be laughing with you. But it's not!

You say red tape has been cut in half, please explain?

Also, you say labor saved us from recession, so, how did they achieve this and, do you recognize that they had money in the bank to start with and, where we are now with debt, from + $20 billion to -$200 billion. (suggested)

Now given that minimg is heading south, you must recognize that so to will the mining tax revenues. Agree!

So, do we simply keep borrowing, topping up the likes of the failing car industry, the illegals, etc.

Remember, our PM wants lots of cash for her education baby. So where do we take that from? Just keep borrowing!

Finally, say in your business, would you consider you were doing well, if you comtinued to increase your overdraft, with no real idea when and how, you are going to pay it back?

You see anyone can live above their means, they simply keep borrowing.

I just hope for your sake, you don't really believe what you are saying, becuase if you do, your landing will hurt.

There is more to the AU economy than mining 20% at its peak.
Abbott's tactics are in decline seriously, and battling for something to say.
International monitors are very happy with our status in the developed world. Our economy is a show-piece for the management, a country should have.
There are the odd few that would love to see our economy collapse, as there are the ones that see CN as a breath of fresh air.

It is always amusing to listen to lefties trying to rationalise the national debt. The best they have is "its not that bad". The AAA is a real corker. What rating is required for $0 debt and a $70bn savings?

Every Labor government, state or federal has left a huge legacy of debt for the opposition to clean up. The interest on Labor's debt would comfortably pay for the NDIS or Gonski, and the rating agencies are pegging Labor's budget coming in with about a $20bn deficit, which is roughly how far out they were last time.

I am watching with bated breath to see how Juliar and Swan, after criticizing Newman, justify cutting the public service, or justify blowing the budget.

Love the lefty slagging off.
When it comes from some one to the right of GENGHIS KARN.
It will be remembered post Abbott, about three months, as a contributor to his fall.
The mad monk this morning again ignoring the boy who cried wolf is looking pale and stale.

The righties here are obviously in utter denial about our strong economy, good financial position (at or near surplus in 2012/2013) and our fantastic future on the back of current strong Labor initiatives.

Why?

Because to admit things are going well for the country, is an admission that is "politically" unacceptable to them. Their denials are ALL about their ideology and their politics, and have NOTHING to do with the actual, real world state of the economy. A current economy that is the ENVY of other first world nations.

Carry on with your denial guys, and keep parroting the Pyne/Hockey/Abbott/Bishop political rhetoric, ideology and denial politics and slogans. Oh, and don't forget to embrace their anger as well, as we all know they are still spitting the dummy over their inability to win the last election.

at or near surplus in 2012/2013) and our fantastic future on the back of current strong Labor initiatives.

So Pete, what happened to our 'surplus at any cost'?

At or near surplus you say.

So where is the money being taken from to achieve this, or, don't you care, so long as the surplus is there.

Remember, we don't have any spare money anymore, so are we going to rob Peter to feed Paul? Or will we simp,y increase borrowings even further, so another generation can pay it back. Maybes,

BTW, how are you going with the red tape question?

Now if that's what you call ' sound management' do us all a favor and don't run for office one day.

DiamondPete you are in debate with unmovable objects.
Years of trying to make ground have proven that.
Some level headed Liberals exist here, you are not in conversation with any yet.
Sadly, consider this.
The installation of Dillard, removal of Rudd, has not yet sank in for many true believers, IT WILL.
We saw a planned take over of the party and its machine.
It was just that.
It stalled membership growth.
Warned the party faithful we are only wanted on election day, and only to man the booths.
Then quietly be sent away while they pick who will be elected in OUR PARTY.
Dillard and her hit squad can not win.
As she and Abbott fight to see who is the lessor of two evils, TURNBULL HAUNTS Abbott.
How will Dillards co-owners of my party go with an opposition leader who can count, read write?

Belly, is that immovable or in convincible, there is a difference you know.

What Pete is trying to convince me of is that despite the decline in mining, the massive loss in revenue, tipped to be around $20billion, the massive jobs losses and the out of control spending on the likes of illegals, that we are still in great shape, not good, great.

I say again and again, PULL THE OTHER ONE.

Boy are you lot In for a shock.

DP,

Australia's economy is the envy of the world in spite of labor's mismanagement. From the accumulation of huge debt from wasteful spending, to policies that make things far more difficult for small businesses such, as the FWA, to the proliferation of red tape and 18000 new regulations, and the new taxes. Your IT business is not affected nearly as much as the rest of the country.

I cannot see one policy that Labor has in place that would help business going forward, and plenty that makes thing worse.

When are the conservatives going to give up pushing the nonsense line that they are the great economic managers. Conservatives live the lie that Labor has huge debt, when in fact Australia's debt is small. Then they proceed to attack the public service, their fellow Australians, portraying them as layabout budgers living off the rest of society, another lie, the vast majority of public servents are as hardworking as any other Australians.
Then its the absurdity of the virtue of small business, the so called backbone of our society. Small business, the true rip off artiest if ever there was one, stealing billions from their fellow Australians through the great taxation rip off. Not satisfied with this theft of billions from the economy, they then proceed to rip off their own employees, often failing their legal obligation to pay correct wages and honor conditions. Small business the savior of society

When are the lefties going to stop pushing the nonsense that they are even competent economic managers.

The OECD countries have had decades building up the debt that has got them in trouble, Federal labor has taken a 5% (of GDP) Credit to a more than 10% debt in 4 years, a record by anyone's standard. If one includes the record state debts left by Labor, Australia is far further towards where Britain is after a decade of Labour.

That Aus is not in trouble like Greece is because Labor hasn't had time to max out the credit card yet, but with promises of nearly $20bn p.a. of unfunded expenditure, they are trying hard.

Butcher first mate I am not having a go at you.
But you are fighting shadows that do not exist.
I am convinced you just do not get it/understand our place in the international scheme of things.
Politics is not so simple you are being hooked by hooks that exist only in Abbott,s head.
SM, your ring master, is up to his arm pits in the left overs from yesterdays Bull sales.