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Please Explain?

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Then SOLAR
TAXPAYERS paid more than ten times the government’s $23 a tonne carbon price to cut greenhouse emissions under Labor’s $324 million solar schools program. The Auditor-General Ian McPhee found the cost of carbon abatement under the scheme, to put solar panels on school roofs, was a “considerable” $284 a tonne.
The domestic scheme failed as well.
Set Top
Labor’s wasteful spending continues unabated, this time in the form of overpriced Set Top Boxes: EVERY set-top box delivered under Labor’s digital TV rollout could be costing the taxpayer an average of $698 — almost double the government’s original estimate, more than 30 times the cost of a box bought at a department store.

Skills Programme
A KEY $2.1 billion federal government skills program designed to provide 711,000 training places over five years was so badly administered that evaluators couldn’t tell who it had trained, according to a report obtained under Freedom of Information. (WE PAID 2 BILLION AND THE PEOPLE WE PAID IT TO COULD NOT TELL US WHO THEY TAUGHT) http://laborwaste.com.au/

Labor has accumulated nearly $200 billion worth of deficits. They are borrowing $135 million every day and they will be spending $7.5 billion on interest repayments by 2014.

What redeeming civic administration feature does this government possess? How can one justify supporting this government at the cost of our tax money going overseas for the foreseeable future. It cost around 2 billion to build a decent size teaching hospital in Australia at present; we will have spent 3 hospitals in interest in the next two years, and many more to follow.

This government is not taking care of the nations interests or that of the people…they are playing ideologies, they are well paid ideologues unlike the majority of those who follow them. As the thread title asks, give reasons to support this government.
Posted by sonofgloin, Friday, 14 September 2012 9:22:47 PM
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Perhaps the alternative of letting us slide into a GFC recession with unemployment hitting European levels of 25%, some bank collapses and mass property foreclosures is the preferred option.

The standard Conservative solution would have been to reduce wages even further to assist businesses and to further cut taxes at the upper levels. Somehow I think that would have been a spectacular failure.

Meanwhile we just have to struggle along somehow with a healthy economy until Abbott comes to rescue us all.
Posted by wobbles, Saturday, 15 September 2012 2:30:09 AM
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No Wobbles, it is now known that we would not have gone into collapse
like the US & Europe. However the government and treasury should have known that.
The man in the street did not know that of course, so it was easy to
con him that the government was our Saviour.
It seems that the reason we did not go into the GFC fully was because
that liberal man Peter Costello had brought in banking regulations that
prevented the banks from sticking their collective necks out too far.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 15 September 2012 10:41:02 AM
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Wobbs, in 2008 we were not in the same financial boat as the Northern hemisphere. Subprime loans constituted over 20% of mortgages in the US between 2004 and 2008. In Australia they encompassed only 2% of property loans. Our lending institutions were not exposed to subprime to any real degree. Our government only guaranteed savings, whereas in Europe and the US the governments actually bailed out the banks with tax payer funds.

So a knee jerk reaction to a potential problem saw value for money disregarded and billions going into the pockets of a few. The likes of Reid Holdings (now bankrupt) were a primary contractor to the BER. A COLA which cost $80K pre stimulus, cost $160K during the BER. Catholic and private schools who self managed their handout got twice the value for money that the Public School system got. Private schools built brick buildings and the public schools got ludicrously priced demountables from the back of a truck for their near 1 million dollar budget.

The further issue was that the subcontractors that Reid and others used to do the work , the tradies, were paid at pre BER rates and the overcharge was eaten up in bullsheiser onsite costs and admin fees pocketed by the corporation and the state governments (but I have to add that the NSW Labor thieves were the most brazen). Who was watching where the borrowed money was being spent…..not the Federal Labor government.

In NSW Labor and their corporate mates took 36% of the allocated billions in admin and sundry government charges as found by the Audit General. NSW Labor stole the BER money and Canberra did nothing about it.
TBC
Posted by sonofgloin, Saturday, 15 September 2012 10:57:05 AM
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Wobbles convince me that the group of people who govern us now, are capable of doing the job. I would think that the majority of voters select a party on their personal ethos rather than the party’s ability to manage the affairs of state.

You have the “business guy” voting “right” because he sees the macro and accepts that “collateral damage” is a cost someone pays to achieve his end, whereas the left voter sees the micro and has compassion for the “collateral damage”.

Wobbs, I witnessed the adoption of the “Third Way” by Hawke and Keating this centrism of policy saw economic rationalism, reductions in trade tariffs, and the people become “collateral damage” for the ideology. These people currently masquerading as the ALP are imposters. The whole ALP branch movement has become nothing except a pool of plebs to do the leg work at election time.

Rather than telling me that Abbott and his lot are zero’s, tell me something positive about the current Labor crop.

Lastly, I keep telling you guys that I vote on the day….the Coalition are not my team; I do not defend the Libs so degrading them as a response to me means nothing. I could go through a load of their failings and unfit for task individual characteristics starting with that charade that is Joe Hockey….but they are not governing or stuffing it up dramatically.

Again, why support Labor.
Posted by sonofgloin, Saturday, 15 September 2012 10:57:16 AM
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WmTrevor >> I'll give you some assistance for future reference, sonofgloin…

"There is a difference between billion and trillion, the difference is a load of zero’s…"

The difference is in fact three zeros <<

Talk about kick a man when he is down, a math lesson with a smirk, thanks Trev, how astute and witty of you champ…three zero’s, the difference between a billion and a trillion….I can name the three zero’s for you Trev.
Oakeshot
Windsor
Wilkey

Now that is witty Trev, unlike your offering, lift your game Trev.
Posted by sonofgloin, Saturday, 15 September 2012 11:09:38 AM
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