0's quote..""Crump, who could neither read nor write,
was just an acquiscent and submissive creep.[""..

oh good one out of 3..for me
but this grasped my intrest more

""..Neither should ever be interred in conscreated ground.""

sadly..this isnt as important as trapping their souls in their bodies..[like mummification..but as for holy ground all ground of god is holy..its onlt that we put it to unholy purpose

like the vile use guns
the EVIL KILL*..those saying mkindlessly they can kill with impunity
aint never had to kill no man..a few tried to kill me..you shouldf see their faces..when im not dead..

so deluded
so predict-able .."""..There are very few crooks who can really push my buttons, by the mere mention of their names. Emmm ?""

yes lets put some demonic images into our minds
jack the ripper or most steven kings..or hitchcock..yes we love being scared"

lets use key words..names
the imagry..of death is so comforting

forget their names..it was just as likely demoic possesion
cause the drug industries drug us into meakness..demons love that

consecrated ground..lol
its all made from gods dust..[the more coarser matter..the finer things are reeserved for those who served the holy father sustain his creation

life
where god is..is life
ye shall call him emmanuel:..[god within us [all]

Hi there ONE UNDER GOD...

Sorry, I probably didn't express myself adequately, apropos '...push my buttons...' ! To look at Crump & Baker, they appear to be quite ordinary blokes. It's their crimes, particulay that which was perpetrated against Virginia MORSE, that's what pushed my buttons.

They were so lucky that it was police who got 'em, not the good menfolk or Moree.

The High Court of Oz. (the 'Viro' judgement, I think ?) has determined what constitutes 'Self Defence'.

In basic terms; 'where there is an IMMEDIATE threat to you, or another, suffering death, or serious injury at the hands of an assailant' (that threat must be real, not doubtful or remote) then lethal force is justified.

Further, it should also be noted; If you or another can make good your escape from that assailant, then you're NOT permitted to resort to lethal force.

That judgement not only applies to the private individual, but to the POLICE, in equal measure. Police can no longer shoot a fleeing felon, either. This is OZ, not the U.S of A !

There may however be an exemption pursuant to the Prison Act. Escape lawful custody ?

That old cliche,'...a man's home is his castle...' and if you catch some bloke in your home in the dead of night, you're entitled to shoot him, or hit him on the head with a vase, in order to defend your home and property - is dead wrong !

Kill someone while protecting your own property, you've got to be prepared to justify your actions in a court of law.

The coppers, sadly HAVE to arrest you IF you can't justify your actions, pursuant to that which the High Court has determined, in their earlier judgement. Again, this is Australia, not the United States of America.

I can tell you all quite unequivocally, any copper who 'clears leather' and shoots someone, unless extraordinary circumstances exist, his career is virtually over, even if the Coroner totally exonerates him. It's simply not worth it.
His mental health is scarred for the rest of his working life.

0's quote..""The coppers,..sadly HAVE to arrest you
IF you can't justify your actions,..pursuant to that which the High Court has determined,..in their earlier judgement""

\thats a complicated personalisation
it all sounds so personal..allmost like a threat.

but lets talk of what your trying to say..police..anyone cant just shoot anyone no more..and even coppers..[a better word than police but i prefer more like a marshal or texus ranger or a mountie..or a biobby/..or like the fed police or asio..all pretty cool guys

but..lets keep asking why..is it so
cause of common law..ie prior court rulings
they peers..got it wrong ..so all lower courts must follow its wrongness?

its [pervetrted..the rule is no injured pary..no lawfull permission to act..no warrent..no injury no crime..the rest is just revenue raising


"""..Again, this is Australia,
not the United States of America.

I can tell you all quite unequivocally,
any copper who 'clears leather' and shoots someone,
unless extraordinary circumstances exist, his career is virtually over, even if the Coroner totally exonerates him.

It's simply not worth it."""

yeah i know we saw what went down in thursday island
police= states issue..i feel they act more like mall security guards..or wanna be csi..

but yet look at the fallout rate..its huge..AUSE IN TIME YOU LEARN>>..your there to protect the big crims..not help the little guy get heard*

""His mental health is scarred for the rest of his working life""

yes we all seen burnout
but thats cause they see derunks driving away drunk after midnight
and them catching the ignorants..en mass next morning

the absurdity of high courts ruling a police dog the same as a torch is insane..thats what burns out good cops..not there LIKE OUR TROOPS..to protect drug lords drug crops

bravo serpico
its time those burnt out spoke up
stuff espri de gore

This thread is about punishment for hienous crimes.
Banjo,
Ok, but in my book heinous punishment is no different.

not sure if its funny or sad
but ya recall how the whitefella him bring in smallpox..on blankets banks 'left'..for the natives..[like they did to the aztec's..

you know genicide one oh one
how do we police that...like i just heard of this

KIWI's rejected..by whhite coloniser
its a tape..at this topic
http://public.worldfreemansociety.org/index.php/forum/23-new-zealand/108935-sick-babies-turned-away-because-they-were-not-registered-with-the-crown-shame-on-you-papakura-marae-nz

get involved...yeah right..got a quota to fill

TENTION ALL PARENTS!

WE ARE 2 YOUNG PARENTS VERY SCARED AS IM SURE YOU ALL WOULD BE IF YOU HAD LOST A CHILD...PAPAKURA MARAE ENDANGERED MY BABIES LIVES BY TURNING THEM AWAY...THIER BABIES FOR GODS SAKE!

OUR BABY OF 3 MONTHS OLD WAS TURNED AWAY FROM PAPAKURA MARAE MEDICAL CENTRE SIMPLY FOR NOT HAVING A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET!...

THE SERVICE IS A MAORI SERVICE AND WE ARE MAORI THEREFORE WE EXPECTED A CERTAIN LEVEL OF EMPATHY AND CONCERN AS WE WERENT 100% SURE WHAT THE "RED DOTS" ON OUR 5 YEAR OLD WERE AND WE HAD GRAVE CONCERNS FOR OUR NEWBORN AS HE HASNT HAD ANY VACCINATIONS AS OF YET.

MY 5 YEAR OLD WAS UPSET AND DISTRESSED AND MY NEWBORN WAS IN DESPERATE NEED OF HIS EARLY CHILDHOOD VACCINATIONS!.

WE TURNED AWAY SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVENT HAD
A CHANCE TO REGISTER HIM (OUR BABY OF 3 MONTHS)

AND THIS BEING DUE TO HIS RECENT CHANGE OF ADDRESS FROM WHERE HE WAS BORN IN MASTERTON TO HERE IN PAPAKURA SOUTH AUCKLAND. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAD SICK BABIES AND WE WERE TURNED AWAY!

IS THIS THE WAY PAPAKURA MARAE TREAT OUR PEOPLE? WE TOOK A CAMERA SO WATCH AS THE RECEPTIONIST CANT EVEN GIVE US A STRAIGHT ANSWER AS TO WHY WE NEEDED THE BIRTH CERT SO BAD!

HER ONLY REASON WAS AND I QUOTE "ITS BECAUSE WHEN THEY GO SUPERCLINIC FOR THE FIRST TIME, LIKE ITS AWEFUL BUT THATS JUST WHAT WE HAVE TO DO"...THAT EXPLAINS NOTHING!

WERE NOT AT SUPERCLINIC WERE AT PAPAKURA MARAE!...ITS DISHEARTENING TO RECEIVE THIS KIND OF SERVICE FROM OUR OWN PEOPLE AND ITS NOT THE FIRST TIME ..

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AS WE HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS ETC WITH TE RAUKURA O TAINUI JUST LAST YEAR REGARDING MY 70 YEAR OLD MOTHER BEING TRESSPASSED AND PHYSICALLY REMOVED FROM CLENDON MEDICAL CENTRE WHILE SHE WAS HAVING A HEART ATTACK!

2 SEPERATE MAORI HEALTH CARE SERVICES AND 2 SEPERATE NIGHTMARES! IF WE ARENT GOING TO DO THE JOB PROPERLY THEN SHUT IT DOWN AND SEND THE DRS TO REAL PRACTISES WHERE THEY ACTUALLY CAN HELP SICK PEOPLE!

MY FAMILY IS APPAULED HURT AND FEEL VERY UPSET TOWARDS THE HEALTHCARE WE HAVE RECEIVED HERE IN AUCKLAND ESPECIALLY CLENDON MEDICAL CENTRE AND PAPAKURA MARAE!.

PLEASE HELP US SHOW THIS CLEAR DISREGARD FOR MY BABIES HEALTH BY SHARING THE VIDEO ETC, WHAT IF THE RED DOTS WERE MENINGITIS AND WE GOT TURNED AWAY?

IM SCARED TO THINK OF WHAT COULDVE HAPPENED AS WEVE ALLREADY LOST OUR ELDEST DAUGHTER TO MEDICAL MALPRACTISE IN MY HOME AREA OF TOKOMARU BAY EAST COAST (TE PUIA HOSPITAL)...