You guys realise you're advocation concentration camps for people who are, to use the German description "Asocial", that is to say once a person like Julian Knight or Brian Keith Jones has served the punitive part of their sentence they'd be sent for preventative detention at a more humane facility where theyd work and pay back their "debt" to society.

Hi there - SCRIBBLER & PAUL...

SCRIBBLER, you put forward some excellent points, inarguably correct. I'd suggest there'd be few amongst us who could push the button, or pull the trigger, in a cold, calculating way. A real tough ask I believe.

Your thoughts on a high security area somewhere out in the Simpson desert, for crims, run and governed by crims, is imaginative but beyond contemplation by any government I would think, though a splendid idea nevertheless !

Though, could you imagine for a moment, any 'Jelly Judge' having the ingenuity or imagination to send some (intractable) crook to such a place ?

And PAUL1405's most interesting comments and comparison from the United States, citing figures from; CA TX & NY where there's virtually no difference in homicide rates, even though Texas has executed 239 souls, as opposed to CA, one and NY, nil ! A well researched piece I reckon. So much for the Death Penalty being a deterrent eh ?

ONE UNDER GOD...You seem to have suffered much grievence, at the hands of authorities, and as a consequence, the police. The result being, you seem to harbour a great deal of enmity, and collectively, hold 'em all in considerable disdain, as a corollary of that perception of inequitable treatment. As I've said previously, I'm sorry for that hurt, OUG I really am.

o sung you..ahh lol..if only you knew
if only i was vexatious..wanted vengence..cause many have done me wrong..in so many ways..

but..my pain is nuthing..compared to their pain that judged me in haste...i compensate with kinder feelings..knowing many know..but only think to know..only god knows..

thing is life..is for a set term
[if you like we are spirits trapped in flesh...for as long as that flesh lives..*..after we die..that passion were ewere embodied..now is set free..NOW KNOWING ITS IMORTAL*

well..how that is fixed..in that realm..is how it will be fixed in these realms..if heaven/earth..ever are to 'meet'..

so we learn to accept..WE EACH GOT LIFE*
with no parol..til the day we die..ITS A PRISON*..here vwee are stuck on a ball of clay/mud water and stone..and here ewe serve out our life sentance*

dying is like getting parrold
killing evil just empowers them..spiritually..[just as we are what we eat..we are that we give our energy/attention..love to

and those loving booze will find booze
even after parrol..sorry death*

anyhow how heaven works is sort the wheat from the tares
the goats from the sheep..etc..so all thieves go to one place
a place where no one owns nuthin..

rapists all go to the ;place rapists go..an island so they can breed their own victims..or grow up

those we want dead we send to usa
get the picture..eg we could take any dark skinned arabs..cause we know their all terrorists[exiles from their own homeland..*

send them back to their homes
reunite families..kids do conscription service after school..and go home with the refugies returning home..[all service personal will have a kit..for travel..plus a govt credit card..much like backpacking ..except their bringing their mates back home

sorry say too much

but that fat miner is right..why pay more than two buck to mine dirt
or mind dirt

o sung wo me too.
But I am sure it is nothing new to you, and that you read between the lines as well as any one.
I saw your claim there are good and bad in any job, I agreed.
I have seen a cop putch a kid in public then kick him.
But have seen them risk their life for one.
Every job has its detractors try being a union official.
I can report about a third of the complaints I saw against them, union officials, had any merit.
OUG hope you understand in any problem self help is the best start, then?
People do care mate.

If one innocent is murdered by the state, the cost is too much, and there have been plenty, now that DNA is decipherable the cases are being revealed monthly.

The mad Norwegian received 21 years goal for murdering 70 odd young ones which is infuriating. Even for him death cannot be an option of law because of the one who may be innocent.

The punishment should be rigid surveillance and regimentation of their entire waking hours. Make them want to escape their pointless unchanging lives. Take everything from them, they work eat and sleep, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, without respite.

Hi there Banjo...

I totally respect your point of view, and your suggestion that you could lawfully execute an individual. Far be it for me to cast any disparagement on either your commitment or statement.

You're obviously from the bush, and as such, you're by necessity a pretty tough bunch. So I'm not in a position to say anything to the contrary. Other than to suggest, it would not be quite so easy, I believe ?

Ah, HASBEEN, my old mate...

Did you happen to read my thread, in toto ? If you did, you'd see not one scintilla of prejudice therein, in order that I might 'warp' it to my advantage as you've uncharitably inferred. And you do know it ol' friend !

However I share your comments on rehabilitation and reintegration back to normal society. In my time I've not seen much evidence of a successful return to normalcy for many.

Regrettably, a crim with extensive criminal antecendents has little or no chance of ever obtaining worthwhile work. His only avenue is back to crime, an environment in which he feels most comfortable and accepted. Unfortunately, this lamentable situation is partly the fault of both Govt's and the community as a whole.

Hi BELLY & ANTHONYVE...

As you've both quite correctly said, the cost of incarceration is prohibitive. What other option(s) do we have then ?

I think it was either BANJO or you BELLY, who mentioned two of the most vile creatures on God's earth...two individuals that I've had quite a lot of DIRECT knowlwdge of...CRUMP & BAKER.

I, and a couple of others, had the great misfortune, to receive a direction to 'PROTECT' these two killers, for a short time - protect 'em from bloody near everything and everybody ? A most horrid and abominable duty, indeed. Baker was by far the ring leader. Crump, who could neither read nor write, was just an acquiscent and submissive creep.

Neither should ever be interred in conscreated ground. There are very few crooks who can really push my buttons, by the mere mention of their names. Emmm ?