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Is the Government finally doing the right thing

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The survivors from the latest boat sinking were transferred from Australian ships to Indonesian land.
Finally after years and hundreds being picked up well into Indonesian waters and being transported to Australian land.
Now all they have to do is start sending boats back.
The number of boats in the last few weeks is the highest ever despite the Indonesian navy deploying ships to the country's southern waters how convenient they could not find or stop any.
Julia did not make a big song and dance so not sure who made the decision but it is a welcome relief and hopefully will send a message Australians are no longer providing a taxi service.
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 31 August 2012 5:47:18 PM
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Yes Phillip, however given the governments rehearsed line of late, 'they (illegals) face the prospect of....... Rather than being accepted into Au' I have to wonder if our strings are being pulled from powers outside of Australia.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 1 September 2012 11:46:24 AM
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PS,

Unfortunately, I don't think the government has the cajones to turn the boats around. Just look at how many people had to die before they finally did something about off shore processing.

Labor has to be dragged kicking and screaming to do the right thing.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 1 September 2012 11:51:34 AM
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How are the refugees going to get to Nauru. Without causing law-suites.
The goal post's have moved somewhat than 10 years ago.
What happened before was in the golden years as Mr Abbott will tell you, there is nothing like living in the past.
Posted by 579, Saturday, 1 September 2012 12:34:41 PM
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By boat or plane.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 1 September 2012 2:55:52 PM
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If Australia axed it's humanitarian resettlement plan and pulled out of the treaty on refugees the "boat people" wouldn't be anyone's problem because they wouldn't be coming south.
How is the Lib/Labor/Green machine "doing the right thing" by Indonesia and Malaysia, the people of PNG and Nauru don't want to be part of the problem either, it's their Australian backed governments who are accepting the refugee prisons.
Furthermore why should we provide a safety valve for South West Asia's ethnic problems? Why should we do anything to help the Pakistanis who support the Taliban, why should we help Hazara, when their "persecution" is a result of their leaders choice to become Iran's death squads and terror cadres in Afghanistan?
Australians don't care about "refugees" and they don't like this country being the dumping ground for the riff raff of South West Asia.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 1 September 2012 3:25:45 PM
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Malaysia and Indonesia are a big part of the problem because they let them in without a visa or return flight, they know they are not tourists who will go home after a holiday, this indicates some high people are getting some sort of reward for this policy (bribes or cheap labor) Australia are partly to blame because they know this but do nothing or say nothing about it yet we give them billion in foreign aid.
For every boat foreign aid should be cut by 100 Million dollars watch how quick they stop them then.
Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 1 September 2012 3:56:51 PM
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Phillip S,
A suspicious person might form the idea that elements of the Malaysian and Indonesian elites don't like Europeans very much and would like to see us all gone from the hemisphere, Mahathir Mohammed certainly wasn't backwards in coming forward on the subject of White people's future on this continent.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 1 September 2012 9:35:36 PM
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Phillip,
A VERY suspicious person might put forward the suggestion that a certain multinational private security and detention centre operator is backing the "people smugglers" or more likely paying Indonesian officials to ensure a steady flow of immigrants.
Because let's throw White guilt and White pity to the wind and call this operation what it is, an human trafficking scam with the end consumer being the Australian political and managerial castes.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 1 September 2012 9:43:32 PM
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Jay Of Melbourne
With a price tag for this new operation of 4.6 Billion dollars, someone is getting rich, that's why they have to STOP them coming or TPV
Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 1 September 2012 10:49:03 PM
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Perhaps one suggestion would be to redirect our military ships so that they do their training/war games in this region, as their presence would no doubt act as a deterrent.

But the only way to stop the boats is to remove what it is they are coming for.

Being confinned to a detention centre, knowing there is a better than average chance of being accepted in to Australia has to be far more attractive an option than staying where it is they came from.

Remove this, and the people smugglers have nothing to sell.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 2 September 2012 6:44:11 AM
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Butcher,
The real profit is in votes for Lib/Labor.Green politicians, the tear streaked faces of Hazara orphans and the plaintive wail of a Sudanese widow tugs at the heartstrings of emotional voters, especially women.
The major parties have no interest in "stopping the boats", every time they supposedly toughen the rules we see a massive increase in Third world immigration to this country via other means, Howard stopped the boats at the back door but threw open the front gate to all and sundry.
Third World immigration is actually an anti democratic move by vested interests, immigration has been used to nullify electorates in the U.S and U.K, big Arnie will no doubt have been the last Republican governor of California, a Romney win at this point seems fairly unlikely but if he does take the White house he'll be the last Republican president, ever.
I've made this point over and over, if we don't remove them ourselves the political, managerial and plutocrat castes will not change, they'll all remain deracinated, Anglo Saxon and Liberal, while the electorate will increasingly become polarised along lines of ethnicity and identity.
Identity politics is destructive to the White/European majority since racially we're not wired to operate that way, we tend toward excessive tolerance and civic, rather than ethnic or racial identity, the problem is that the civic authority described above does not have our ethnic interests in mind, only their personal political and economic interests.
Convincing sensitive, overly tolerant Whites to vote for the Lib/Labor/Green machine is to convince them to vote against their own short term interests and to ignore their posterity
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 2 September 2012 9:23:25 AM
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