I believe the beggars get free tea coffee and biscuits too!
Not even the HSU got that much.
But why the concern? some sports men and women get twice that.
Remember your figure is untrue.
But are you concerned with bank managers getting multi millions in bonuses?
I have seen you defend high wages, seems you are targeting the job not the wage here.
Tell you what, if you take lower wages than you can get, send for help, money alone makes the world go round.
HSU, HIGH WATER IN WAGES AND FILTH GOT 300.000 NO ONE ELSE.
Scuse me, of to the unionist only section of the bar, promise not to get above my class again.

*Not even the HSU got that much.*

Well seemingly they did, Belly. Just google it. 350K for the boss,
270k for the assistant, 140k Volvo luxury SUV, all paid for by the
union members.

You miss the irony of all this, its a bit like religion. Businesses
claim to be there to make a profit, so are honest about it. Unionists
claim to be there to help the poor worker. Clearly some union leaders,
(not the underlings like Belly of course) are creaming it all the
way!

They published an itinery of where Graig Thompson stayed, when he came
to WA. Luxury restort, luxury expenses all the way. This is just one
union that we know about.

So my point is this: At least business is honest. It seems that
unions are more like religions. Some at the top, are seemingly
creaming it all the way and many of the members don't have a clue.

* Scuse me, of to the unionist only section of the bar, promise not to get above my class again.*

Sounds like some of your rich union mates are meanwhile in the
rich section of the bar. I'm down in the peasant section, but hey,
there are nice people down here.

*HSU, HIGH WATER IN WAGES AND FILTH GOT 300.000 NO ONE ELSE.*

Well here you are contradicting yourself, as earlier you claimed that
nobody got that much. The thing is, we don't know. We only know about
the HSU because of the Thompson affair. We really don't know what is
going on in other unions. This time, a union was simply caught with
its pants down, so has been exposed. Who checks on all those figures
and expense accounts? Who checks on corruption within the building
unions?

Yabby, mate, you best serve my case.point of view.
Bill shorten gets that 300 thou, as minister, Howe's gets less than 2.
Here I constantly go on record, CONDEMNING the CFMEU and HSU.
You, as ou do in my ALP WAKE UP threads wander in and empty garbage on them.
In fact the fact you blindly see no good in unions, supports my view.
These filth, and every such grub, greatly harms the union movement.
And by implication the ALP.
I SHARE MY EX WORKMATES VIEW, such can never see the whole story
IT DOES NOT MATTER!
In truth only the dismantling of both these unions and new name new path unions replace them will do.
CONSIDER THIS east coast dairy farmers offer homes to pensioners and mentally disabled.
In return for working the get $100 a month and a shed to live in.
Do you yabby understand blaming every farmer is stupid?
I worked for three non unionists/slaves after a construction boss came with me to see them.
They lived in filth.
Still hurts to think of.
We got
423.000 in an out of court settlement, should have been much more, poor beggars to afraid to go in to court.
Are all farmers like that? no mate, but some would like to be.

*Here I constantly go on record, CONDEMNING the CFMEU and HSU.*

Ah indeed you do, Belly. But that is not going to change much,
is it? Those unions are part of the ACTU. I understand that
the head of the HSU, was also party prez of the ALP for some
time. Brothers in arms together, in the thick of it, at the top.
You underlings really don't matter too much, IMHO.

Anyone can be a farmer or a businessman. I have no affiliation
with other farmers who might be doing the wrong thing.

All I am doing is pointing out is the deep flaws in both your
union movement and in your political party. I have never denied
that unions can in fact do some good, if there are checks and balances.
Once we have a union movement which is deeply intertwined
with the Govt, trouble is sure to follow. That is really what we
have now.

It may be of interest to some who read and do not post[please do we need the intellectual stimulus]
To know what I think/hope the face of future unionism will be.
Well not a toothless Tiger!
But much as my union is today, traveling toward a service based oganisation.
Long gone are the news letters consigned to the waste paper bin as soon as they are handed out or arrive.
The fact is members want to be members, but as workplace and income insurance not [political indoctrination].
Unionism, MUST mover away from the crowd mentality such as this union stage.
About ten percent and not more are even in part militant.
CFMEU after sinking the BLF, took on its tactics and grew them.
Those marches impress, those who want the limelight.
Every fall in membership brings another such staged event.
The strong moving in the crowd forcing SOLIDARITY mindless following.
I think we need one day, one union, different sections for different workplaces.
Highly skilled and trained legal section, and tight money control and reporting.
One union has the power to take on even its child the ALP in the interests of its members.
Recent cuts in workers compensation, not just a Liberal thing, Labor did it too in my state, saw less headlines than this thuggish act in both capitals.
A reminder, few know it,those picketing the site? not workers from the site

Yabby dearest one, I did miss you all. :)

I never claimed the honesty of a businessman to be less than the honesty of a unionist or a Church leader.

Each on his or her own merit and in his or her time.

If you look into any organisation whether it is a corporation, a union, a government department, an NGO, a NFP or intelligence agencies you will find, on occasion, cases of corruption, fraud and incompetence.

Unions do not always look after the interests of their members well as business does not always look after the interests of their shareholders to whom they are legally obligated. The trick is how to keep them honest. As a consumer that is relatively easy, you can vote with your feet, as a citizen it is somewhat harder having very little influence on government policy.

The idea of unionism is not a bad one as it is made out to be by the business lobbies. I do hope Bill Shorten institutes some sort of regime of accountability for unions. It is vital that unions improve their act. History already records what happens in scenarios where employers have all the power.