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Being legal and being recognized are two entirely different things.

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Anthony,
A fairly typical response from someone with no ideas of his own.
Care to debate? Nope, thought not, it's so much easier to just squeal STUPID! IGNORANT! EVIL! because then you won't have to think about things like African homophobia or persecution of Gays in the Third World.
What do you predict will happen to "Gay rights" when this country is over 50% Third World people and the Anglo Saxon politicians need their votes to stay in office?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 6:27:25 AM
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Anthony,
Here's a snippet from not so long ago, "Caucasian or Mediterranean appearance" means Lebanese BTW:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/men-mauled-in-alleged-gay-bashing/story-e6frf7kx-1225971305438
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 6:36:40 AM
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Dear Jay,

You wrote: "White people who convert to Islam or Judaism"

Are you saying that being a Jew or Muslim means you're not a white person?
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 9:09:30 AM
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Jay,
Thanks for the invite to debate, and, contrary to your assumption, (making factless assumptions appears to be one of your modus operandi), I will accept.
If you would care to check the last census data, you will find there are less than 400,000 Muslims in Australia. That's around 1.8% of our
population.
So your inference that we're being overrun is - well, let's just say, a tad hyperbolic.
Second, you seem to have assumed that somehow these migrants will take over Australian culture and reshape it according to their's.
I happen to have a little more faith in Aussie culture. I think it's far more likely that within a generation or two, most migrants discover that, on balance, Aussie values and way of life are pretty good, and they tend to adopt our values rather than impose their's.
What basis do I have for that hypothesis?
Well,let's look at the previous waves of migrants to our land.
The Vietnamese? We were told by people like you two generations ago that the Vietnamese would take over, work for nothing and we'd all end up eating rice.
But what happened. The vast majority of Vietnamese people turned into outstanding, hardworking Aussies.
Let's look at the post war wave of Greek migrants. Sure they still love their Greek culture, and Melbourne has the largest Greek community in the world after Athens.
But I guarantee you that the vast majority of those people of now Greek extraction, while proud of their heritage, are also proud Aussies who love the Australian culture and way of life.
So, history and statistics tell me that you're anticipating a disaster that will never happen.
Remember what the Spanish philosopher Georges Santayana said, "Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it."
Because you are not looking at our history of migration, you are spouting the same fear mongering nonsense as did your forbears, one, two or three generations ago.
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au
Posted by Anthonyve, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 10:06:28 AM
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David F,
Ask jews and Muslims if they're White, I was using White converts to illustrate a point about the legitimacy of the state using anti discrimination laws to enforce tolerance among skeptics of certain practices or beliefs. I'd be putting the gun in my own mouth by making statements about the ethnic origins of Jewish people, it's a subject which is strictly off limits for Gentiles.
Anthony,
Not the point, I clearly said that Anglo Saxon politicians will do anything to maintain their hold on government, if and when Australia is majority Third World society they will have to accomodate the views of religious and conservative Christians and Muslims or lose their seats.
We hear a lot on this site about mediaeval superstition in Christianity and it's role in supposedly victimising homosexuals but as usual those posters have a completely outdated view of the world, they're literally stuck in the past.
Christianity is no longer a White European religion, it's a now Third World faith which is rapidly expanding and will soon overtake Islam, third worlders are taught to take scripture literally, the Bible is a living document to millions of Africans and Asians.
Look at it this way.According to gay advocates they have the support of 60% of Australians, well 60% of which demographic? 60% of White Australians is about 48% of the total population, that's already a minority, what proportion of Chinese Australians support it?
Indians? Koreans? Pacific Islanders? Africans? Could we reasonably speculate that the figure is probably going to be close to zero in those groups?
From all I can gather the plan is to turn Australia into a majority Third World Nation with an Anglo Saxon governing elite, historically that hasn't worked out well, remember Apartheid?
You're debating a person who having looked at all the angles to the story isn't even opposing gay marriage anymore, let them get married but the society of today is going to rapidly disappear in the next decade or two and the anglo saxon political caste will have to come to term with their new constituents.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 2:22:33 PM
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<<a majority Third World Nation with an Anglo Saxon governing elite, historically that hasn't worked out well, remember Apartheid?>>

Jay,
You certainly aren't one to let the facts get in the way of a good theory, are you.
I do remember apartheid, and it occurred not under an Anglo Saxon regime but rather a Boer regime.
Two very different things.
You are making wild assertions such as the intention is to make Australia a "majority third world country".
Well, what does that mean, it either is or it isn't
Do you mean a majority of Australians coming from third world countries?
If so, then that's nonsense. Even with the recent increase, we only take 125,000 migrants/annum, and not all of those are from third world countries.
And that's out of a population of 23 million.
At that rate, it would take a couple of hundred years for the third world originating component of Australians to be a majority.
And by then they would be as Aussie as anyone.
The facts just do not support your theory.
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au
Posted by Anthonyve, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 2:43:05 PM
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