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Perhaps it's time for a different approach.

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david f,
You made the claim that the illegals were not breaking our laws, so it is up to you to validate that claim.

Your claim is incorrect and I am sick and tired of answering such rubbish, which is simply put forward in endeavour to paint the illegals in a better light. They are shonks who con us and lie to our officials. A search will reveal that all non citizens require a valid visa to enter Aus, otherwise entry will be denied.

They do not come via the front door because of the likelyhood of being denied asylum. They want official permanent residence so they can then legally fly out the remainder of their family and get all our social services.

But some people are to dense to see that.
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 16 August 2012 12:07:43 PM
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Dear Banjo,

If one is breaking the law one can refer to the law they are breaking. It is that simple. Australian has a criminal code which contains a list of crimes and the penalty for committing them. The people smugglers have committed a crime and have been penalised for such activity. The passengers on those boats have committed no crime. If they had they could be charged under Australian law and if found guilty they would be subject to the specified penalty.

Repetition of a statement which has no basis does not make it a fact. The boat people have done nothing illegal although they have been referred to as illegal aliens. Undocumented aliens are not illegal aliens. You apparently have no evidence you can cite to show they are acting illegally. I am getting tired of your blathering and your insultxs.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 16 August 2012 12:28:41 PM
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david f - use your brain think now if it was legal for all people to arrive without a visa why have the visa and most importantly the first time someone was put on a plane how the do gooders and refugees advocates would have the case in the High Court.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 16 August 2012 12:51:27 PM
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Dear Philip S,

Perhaps you did not read my earlier post. The government has a right to deport undocumented aliens. However, deportation is not a criminal penalty. The government also has a right to deport aliens who are here with proper documentation but who have committed crimes. After serving their sentence they may be departed.

It seems hard for some people to understand, but the boat people have committed no crime by either being on a boat coming to Australia or actually landing on Australian soil.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 16 August 2012 1:03:30 PM
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david f,
See how soft we are? I relented and easily found an appropriate page on the DIAC website, Please read and remember fraud is a criminal offence.

http://www.immi.gov.au/managing-australias-borders/detention/about/background.htm
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 16 August 2012 1:23:01 PM
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To seek asylum is not a crime, unregulated asylum seekers get hard to handle. Without documentation checking out these people takes time and causes big delays. I think the govt; will take on an even slower process in Naru.
What is the consequences of Australian ships taking on these people and delivering them to another foreign port.
This will no doubt spark more court cases. Any children born there will be Naru citizens.
Posted by 579, Thursday, 16 August 2012 1:26:24 PM
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