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Perhaps it's time for a different approach.

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You know, things are pretty crook, when we have so many of our own who are homeless, or dont know where their next meal is comming from, while on the other hand we open our doors to illegals in the tens of thousands, providing accommodation, warm beds and guaranteed meals, and then some.

Then we have people, going off to work, paying their taxes, paying for their travel means, car/public trans etc, then being slugged a huge portion of their income so their kids can be cared for while they go about thier duty of generating taxes.

Meanwhile, old single mum,or non working parents, gets to go to the movies, paying a pittance, if anything, to have her kid/kids looked after in the same care facility.

In my view Any mother who goes back to work should be provided with either free, or next to free child care, regardless of thier income, as they have done their bit for our nation and shoukd not be punished for it.

Then we have retirees fighting tooth and nail every day just to obtain the slightest benefits, because for some reason they have been exonerated for working too hard and accumulating too many assetts.

Meanwhile, the ones who sit in the pubs/clubs, squeezing the last cent of their welfare into the pokies, between smoke breaks, get to do this unhampered by the very system that has denied the pension to those who provided to the system in their working lives before being told (mid steam), sorry, you will no longer be eligible for the pension.

I really think it's about time we turn the tables and offer reward for effort ,rather than the mentality that we have whereby those who fail get the rewards, while those who succeed get the pleasure of providing taxes, knowing they will not be supported.

I have always said, a portion of your tax should be set aside for your retirement, over and above super.

The more tax one pays throughout their working lives, the higher the pension they should receive.

Perhaps it's time for a different approach.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 16 August 2012 6:38:25 AM
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rehctub,
got this the other day from a mate, it falls into the gist of this thread.

Fred submitted his 2012 taxation return recently & had it promptly returned by the Tax Office stating that the answer to the qestion "List all your dependants" was unacceptable. His initial answer to this question on his Tax Return was as follows: I support the following dependants

1. 200000 illegal immigrants
2. 180000 crack heads
3. 50000 unemployed on benefits
4. 20000 people in prison
5. 150 fools in parliament

When his Tax Return was returned to him stating that the abovementioned answers were unacceptable, he promptly sent it back again to the Tax Office with the query,

"Did I forget someone"
Posted by individual, Thursday, 16 August 2012 8:13:50 AM
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rehctub wrote: "You know, things are pretty crook, when we have so many of our own who are homeless, or dont know where their next meal is comming from, while on the other hand we open our doors to illegals in the tens of thousands, providing accommodation, warm beds and guaranteed meals, and then some."

Dear rehctub,

Who is 'our own'? Are we not part of humanity? Is not every person on earth a member of the same species that we are?

We do not open our doors to illegals or to those arriving by boat who are not illegal. It is not a crime to come to Australia as a boat person. Australia in putting boat people in detention imprisons people who have committed no crime. You have equated imprisonment with hospitality. Prison is hospitality of a sort but not the kind I would want.

Putting people in detention is NOT opening our doors.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 16 August 2012 8:31:42 AM
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rehctub,

Regarding seniors and the pension.....what a great idea!

Imagine the two tiers of retirees, one lot, having earned a pretty penny during their working lives being stoked up with extra pension and benefits they don't really need - and the other lot stuffed into "poor houses" like in the old days before social democracy.

What a wonderful vibrant society that would create.

You really are something out of Dickens aren't you.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 16 August 2012 8:45:31 AM
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David if you love them so much, you support them.

I have no interest in being ripped of by these gate crashers, or our own bludgers. I am prepared to do something to help those who have had a bad deal, but druggies, criminals, & bludgers can go jump, along with ALL boat people.

There may be some good to come out of this fiasco. Enough people have now got their backs up at being ripped off by the bleeding hearts & their chosen "underprivileged", that we might actually let the pollies know we won't take any more.

If the pollies throw any more money at these fool bleeding hearts, & their projects, there is a very reasonable chance that they will loose many votes, enough perhaps to wake them up to our annoyance.

Obviously this has finally got through to Julia & the Labor twits. Now we need the other lot to realise, it is not just gate crashers we will no longer pay for, it is all bludgers.

Campbell Newman has made a little start, but it must go much further. After a local government clean out, all work shy bludgers must be dragged off the teat, as must higher education, starting with the institute of sport.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 16 August 2012 8:52:18 AM
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david f,
Are you just ignorant or stupid?

Any non citizen who arrives in Aus without a valid visa is committing a crime. That is the sole reason we can lock them up and, for arrivals by air, the reason we can send them back ASAP without a court hearing.

We cannot and do not detain persons who arrive legally.

Have a look at the DIAC website if you are capable of doing so.

This has been stated on OLO countless time and still some, like you, continue to post the lefties propaganda.

Butch refers to Aus citizens when he says 'our own'. The governments first responsibility is to look after our citizens. Our government is not responsibile for all the humanity in the world and neither are we.

Is it not about time you stopped voicing rubbish.
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 16 August 2012 9:05:04 AM
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