Pericles I do believe an agenda of resources vs population is discussed regularly and options towards that are canvassed in exactly the same manner a local council plans for future eventualities and infrastructure. If you know of the Club of Rome then you would be aware that these plans are being discussed regularly. This group of uber patricians does have an agenda for one world governance and a sustainable global population and they view individual sovereign nations as an obstacle to their sustainability.

Re your comment about ten year olds and crayons, have you ever considered being a wage earning critic, your quips are so witty they would put the extraordinarily concise barbs of Noel Coward to shame.

Poirot, re the sustainable farming comment. I wish it was so. Do you know what Monsanto are doing with crop seeds? Most of the fruit and vegetables that comes from the corporate ag segment are sterile, the seeds won’t grow. They have us by the throat.

I can not find the link, but this week in an Australian news paper.
Research done in America by a 12 year old, and true, gave evidence that 43 of the 44 American presidents are cousins! relating back to King John of England.
And too, while loose with its truths, the anti new world order groups can show links back hundreds of years to the true elitist in the Buildernberg group, worth goggling.

sonofgloin,

Yes, I'm very aware of Monsanto's sterile seed profit making - they've had a ball in India particularly, putting paid to the ancient tradition of seed saving and sharing....along with fertilizers and pesticides etc. Did you know a Western company tried to patent Basmati rice which was developed by the Indians yonks ago?

But that's all to to with Western corporations and hegemony, it's helped feed millions of Indians and made huge profits for the companies involved. Unfortunately, the whole set up is unsustainable and has led to massive land degradation and water depletion.

Don't be silly, Belly, I am sure your views are respected by all.

>>Sonofglion I probably blacken myself in some eyes for saying this.<<

But I suspect you may be drawing a wrong conclusion here:

>>Could it just be the more out of control our world gets the closer we get to excepting one world government?<<

As I look around at the "out of control" parts of the world, it appears to me that countries are splitting apart, rather than coming together. Think of the Middle East, where there often seems to be more religious factions and separatist enclaves than there are people. Think of the Balkans, which was glued together for a while with some political bullying, then fell apart with violence. Think even of Scotland, which after three hundred years as part of the UK, is toying with independence.

I would go so far as to suggest that we are well into a phase where "national identity" has become more, rather than less important, which is hardly the climate in which a potential world government could flourish. And if you needed a further example, you need look no further than the European experiment. It is turning out to be a convincing argument against the likelihood of nations ceding sovereignty to a central body, even a friendly one.

On balance, I think we are safe for another century or so.

Pericles>> On balance, I think we are safe for another century or so<<
Pericles>> As I look around at the "out of control" parts of the world, it appears to me that countries are splitting apart, rather than coming together.
I would go so far as to suggest that we are well into a phase where "national identity" has become more, rather than less important,<<

If this is meant to qualify that world governance is impossible due to tribalism, I can’t see it. Pericles I note that you use homogenous nations as examples, the Arabs, the Slavic. Have a peek at how multi racial Europe, North America, Britain, Australia and New Zealand have become in the past thirty years.

America was always a repository for all the nations of Europe but the homogenous nature of the founding European Caucasian has been altered by the Hispanic influx. In Europe the homogenous Caucasian culture has been markedly altered by the Middle Eastern influx. There are now at least two social agendas in all the countries of Europe. Do the new French, new Germans, new Dutch, new British, etc, adopt their new country and its social norms, no. New citizens’ enclave due to religious and cultural differences. The nation is no longer a homogenous CULTURE, nothing to do with ethnicity. The difference is the way we think and our vastly different cultures.

This injected divisive element brings emotion to the existing residents that spawn criminal acts such as 70 innocent kids blown away in Norway. It sees anti cover up laws instituted in France…..It sees the likes of the BNP gaining memberships in Britain. I might add that I am not blaming the immigrants; they are just the tool for the globalist agenda of the UN and their bankster puppeteers.

Pericles It is a tool to divide and conquer. If you do not see it, so be it

The splitting apart that we're seeing is in most cases to do with national identity exclusively. Scotland is a perfect example. Of course, the Balkans was not.
I think that the EU represents an interesting experiment that is much like the Curate's egg - well done in parts.
Baron Von Heineken, yes, part of the beer dynasty, but an anthropologist, back in the mid 20th C, identified 1100 different ethnic and cultural groupings in Europe.
This hasn't prevented Europe from finding common ground and creating a partnership that is highly effective for the most part. Please note, I'm talking of the EU not the Eurozone which, for other reasons is a bit of a disaster.
My point is that we will see more of this; countries being independent along cultural lines, but forming economic and defense zones, i.e. cooperating and giving up a little autonomy where it is sensible to do so, but maintaining a unique ethnic or cultural identity to satisfy the very human drive to be part of an identifiable group.
I think this trend is all but unstoppable,and will, for the most part, make the world a better and safer place.
Anthony
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