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The World is Over populated

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*I'm happy in my trench thanks.*

That's fine Csteele. We'll just get all the girls pregnant, you
can feed all their children. That's a fair deal :)

Sadly the Africans have worked softies like you out, long ago.
I once followed a net debate between and Eritrean and an Ethiopian.
The Eritrean correctly pointed out that the Ethiopians knew very well
that they only had to dangle a starving baby or two before the Western TV cameras and hey presto, over the horzion came the boatloads of Western food! Far easier than growing the stuff and for sale at most markets in Africa.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 3 August 2012 2:11:06 PM
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csteele,

As ever ...

Why not ask the women in these countries if they want constant pregnancies ... Alternatively,look at their experiences.

Years ago I supported a program to teach women in Africa how to grow subsistence food. At points it was successful, but failed at others and certainly not because of lack of will by these women.

Look at maternal mortality rates in these countries.

Of course, you have heard of maternal fistulas.

The Fistula Foundation
http://www.fistulafoundation.org/

“Obstetric fistula is the most devastating and serious of all childbirth injuries. It happens because most mothers in poor countries give birth without any medical help. So many are young girls. Complications from pregnancy and childbirth are among the leading causes of death and disability for women of reproductive age in these places ...

Her baby is unlikely to survive. If she survives, a woman with fistula is likely to be rejected by her husband because of her inability to bear more children and her foul smell. She will be shunned by her community and forced to live an isolated existence. These women suffer profound psychological trauma resulting from their utter loss of status and dignity, in addition to suffering constantly from their physical internal injury ...

Right now, hundreds of thousands of women are suffering from this heartbreaking, treatable childbirth injury because they are too poor to afford surgery that costs about $450.

This number keeps growing bigger. Each year approximately 100,000 women develop this childbirth injury — or 273 each day. The international capacity to treat fistula patients has been estimated at 6,500 a year — or 18 patients each day. Surgeons would describe this as an enormous backlog of untreated patients. There is clearly an overwhelming need for treating far more women."

In addition, these women are desperate about their children's future.

We all know that food sent to these places frequently does not reach the people for whom it is intended due to corruption at higher levels.

cont ...
Posted by Danielle, Friday, 3 August 2012 4:04:18 PM
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The best future is for these women to have access to free contraception and reproductive education.

Instead of pontificating "on their behalf," let them decide.

Let them have the means to make decisions for themselves. Give them this dignity and right.
Posted by Danielle, Friday, 3 August 2012 4:06:09 PM
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csteele,

I suggest you read the entire article for yourself ...

http://www.fistulafoundation.org/whatisfistula/
Posted by Danielle, Friday, 3 August 2012 4:13:27 PM
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csteele loven it!
Dad had 16 kids with mum,8 lived to grow up.
Think he had that number out of wed lock, I inherited his grin!
Best chance the worlds poor have is to keep the nutty left and bleeding hearts under lock and key.
Let the rational get it done.
I would have thought, based on your history you would be in the trench opposite mine.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 3 August 2012 5:12:14 PM
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Dear Belly,

You wrote;

"I would have thought, based on your history you would be in the trench opposite mine."

You are probably right. Me and my mob are pretty easily recognized, just look for the slouch hats, where do I look for your lot? Oh there you are, looking remarkably resplendent in your coal scuttle helmets. ;)
Posted by csteele, Friday, 3 August 2012 7:20:59 PM
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