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Silencing dissent.

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Lexi, I just read your exchange with SM.
I then went and read your references.

The $6500 write off is a joke. No machine or equipment, except a
computer, that a business would buy would cost less that $6500.
The other money promised is to provide advise on energy saving methods
or in other words to set up the organisation that will be giving the advise.
In other words to pay for more bureaucrats !

I have to agree with SM, there is virtually nothing there.

Really Lexi, you are rather naive and inexperienced as that is the
most generous reason I can find when examining your reference links.
I think Lexi, this episode explains much in the past. Sorry.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 2 August 2012 4:28:36 PM
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On the subject of "silencing dissent", it seems Joanne Nova is celebrating articles: "...disappearing down the memory hole. Presumably neither newspaper is proud of having been fooled by Muller - the articles were so quickly blown away when skeptics pointed out that Muller was a fake skeptic, and that his results were highly dubious (Special achievement award to Anthony Watts)...."

"it appears skeptics are getting to the Fairfax press (finally!)"

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/08/major-australian-dailies-disappear-the-muller-conversion-article-opps-404-error/

Manipulation of information and its dissemination is, and has always been, in the hands of vested interests. Ownership of outlets and political control may change, but even in a democracy the press is never entirely "free".
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 2 August 2012 6:02:47 PM
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It would really help if people understood how the carbon tax is to be implemented, rather than blowing in the wind the way they think it will work based on their political bent.

Obviously, some people haven't really read or understood the information package sent out some months ago now.

They really can't comprehend the ACCC's website on carbon pricing either.

It seems the anti-mob here think everybody and their dog should get some kind of compensation! What would be the point?

If you are a business, you can increase your prices due to the carbon price (but don't lie).

However, the impact is not, and has not, been that significant on the cost of items aggregated over all costs to a business.

http://www.skynews.com.au/businessnews/article.aspx?id=777215

I received my energy bill recently:
Supply charges up 45%
Usage charges up 41%

Of that 41%, only 8% is due to the carbon tax.

'Abbott the Liar' and his traveling road show claim the carbon price is going to wreck the economy. It isn't, it won't.

To my mind he is just dumbing down the electorate by his fear campaigns - flip-flopping on a whim and re-inventing 'flim-flam' like Mr 'Wiggle-Waggle', our precious OLO 'shadow minister'.
Posted by bonmot, Thursday, 2 August 2012 7:02:38 PM
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Poirot, are you suggesting their has been a "silencing of dissent"?

OMG!
Posted by bonmot, Thursday, 2 August 2012 7:05:34 PM
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Bazz, you asked me to "enlighten" you about BEST. Your silence is deafening and speaks volumes, sorry.
Posted by bonmot, Thursday, 2 August 2012 7:17:14 PM
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bonmot,

OMG! is right.

I think the dust is settling in the wake of Gina's foray into Fairfax.

Put well here:

http://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/fairfax-starts-trumpeting-rineharts-agenda-todays-op-ed-by-climate-crank-david-evans/
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 2 August 2012 7:40:57 PM
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