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Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 22 July 2012 9:13:51 PM
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Lexi,
If you are a fan of what Juliar is doing, then maybe you are one of the happy minority. What happened between 2007 and 2010 was that the electorate's wishes moved to the right, and Juliar promised them largely what they wanted. The problem for the majority of voters is two fold i.e. she is doing what they don't want, and she is doing what she promised not to. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/electorate-right-about-pms-left-turn/story-fn7078da-1226432215596 While I have seen the justifications that you have put forward for her duplicity, I, and the majority aren't buying it. Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 23 July 2012 5:07:28 AM
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw-labor-blamed-for-rudd-leak/story-e6freuy9-1226432233033
Lexi I take no offense, an ex punter I spent my life studying the form. To win at horse racing you must,even find out the state of mind of the owners trainers and jockey. Then bet only what will not hurt. I do so with politics , always. Right there, on the front page, in headlines, and in my link, is evidence of the toxic nature behind Rudd's dumping/Gillards rise. Gillard is unable to sell her policy's or the Governments, a critical part of her job description. She has not been able to match Abbott, is the SINGLE REASON he rides high with idiot policy's. Looking at Abbott's wrongs, to save Gillard, is to say the public is silly. Given the choice Abbott [Pinocchio] Gillard [knife in hand]. The choice has been made Abbott! Is my party, no its power brokers, strange way to spell DICTATORS! to suffer near death, may be even death for their ego? Even self interested fleas have eyes, a healthier dog is coming. Go Kevin you good thing! Lexi I take no offense you can not be blamed for haveing your own views. Posted by Belly, Monday, 23 July 2012 6:18:25 AM
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Shadow Minister you will have noted I have agreed with some of your comments here.
After the shock you may have granted that at least I can see some wrongs in my team. I want to fill that out, just a bit. Few understand the past of my Great ALP, its pain to become an electable party. Sir Robert Menzies, not unlike John Howard, had our measure,with our help. Both knew how to win ALP voters over, the ALP knew how to shed them. Our savior in 1972 took years, just to get permission to stand, to change the party's platform, from those dreaded faceless men. My proud Union, bush bred like me, power? Charlie Oliver! power was his name! He gave the big fella permission to lead the ALP! I love the center and right unions, ALWAYS. Understand the ALP was born from the unions. In every state but QLD unions can not get delegates in numbers to go to ALP branches. My dream is evolution. Yes fund politics, yes be union, but not control. Your happiness SM is my night mare, how dare I, stand confronting My life, my history my unionism? Built on the guts of the rank and file the ALP and Unions must first SERVE. I demand the insult I grew up with, hated ,agreed, with, be killed forever FACELESS MEN. A party claiming reform must reform, or die. Confronted by our own failures and your teams loss of contact with good governance my country needs a strong ALP/OPPOSITION. Gillard, her stubborn supporters condemn us to that opposition. Posted by Belly, Monday, 23 July 2012 6:39:33 AM
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Yes I know.
Done it again. Let my passion get the better of me. My sure and certain understanding if Julia had Angels wings, and Abbott Devils horns, Labor would be thrashed if lead by her. Got the better of me. Do I march over the cliff? Or say what I think. Just maybe others think silence is good. Not me, gutless is my view. Posted by Belly, Monday, 23 July 2012 3:49:12 PM
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This mornings polls have the final word.
We should, every now and again, put our thoughts and wishes,biases, in the bucket by the door. Consider the views of the many. Those views, my views, are in those polls. Try as hard as you wish, to impose something else, but truth will be there at the end. Labors primary vote is 28% , we once cried as it dropped to 43% Gillards approval rating is 29% Abbott's 30% Have we ever been lead by two more unloved? Liberal lead is in landslide on an earth quake followed by flood size. It can not be avoided, Abbott's figures show even many on his side do not like him, but will vote for him! However weary as we are of politics we must never become weary of truth. Gillard will go, Abbott too, we must, every one every side, insist that never again will our party's and leaders forget why we put them there. I said August, Gillard is gone, some say September, but if she is in the lodge past then? She thankfully will not be, but a new party may be born if she is. Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 5:26:10 AM
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I didn't mean to upset you. However, I really
don't understand just what the PM has done wrong.
She's had to deal with a hung parliament, yet she's
managed to pass so much good legislation. And has more
on the agenda. I admit that I don't understand all
the politics behind the scenes - nor do I really
want to. What interests me are the policies and
the good that can come out of them. I'm merely
expressing an opinion. It's not meant as a
criticism of you or your point of view.