And who will they choose as their new leader?
The devil they know - Mr Rudd?
Lexi,
It sends a shiver down my spine to think of the possibility of australian voters being so stupid.

Belly,
With Labor odds on to lose the next election, it must be remembered that the PM is not the sole government. The whole parliamentry Labor team is to blame for the current situation as everything they have touched has gone bad.

As one commentator said, it is the result of ideology before practicality. Ideas put forward as policy without thinking them through. No wonder there has been bad press and the public has lost faithin their ability.

As the leader Gillard has to take most of the blame, but who to replace her with. Any new potential leader would be severly handicapped by the current situation. My guess Rudd is the only one to have an ego big enough to think he could win next election.

It's a joke that even those who voted against Rudd claim him as the "people's" prime-minister.

I admire Gillard's strength in the face of misogyny and biased media bile while getting the job done. Although I'd love to see her succeed, I really don't care who leads Labor as long the reform agenda is not dropped or watered down.

Carlton's point about Gillard not being able to sell the Labor message has a lot to do with the petulance and destabilization of a vengeful Rudd and his supporters failing to give her the clear air to do so. Fitzgibbon's role in this (and ego and self-interest) is stunning and if he is anywhere near the seat of Labor power at the next election it is clear that populism will have completely won the day and I'll be voting independent.

The opposition's policy platform, which is to repeal every Labor reform, "stop the boats" by force and introduce employment "flexibility"(Work Choices), is going to be a hard to sell positively as will be the GST rise needed to pay for removing the carbon and mining taxes (but that won't be mentioned, of course). What lies and omissions await us from our one and only self-confessed liar, the Mad Monk?

with so many of the Labour party heavies having been on the gravy train thanks to cleaner money paid to the unions it is very difficult to see a replacement. Anyone listening to Alan Jones yesterday would understand what a cesspool of deceit our PM was tied up in years ago. She claims she was naive (in her thirties!) What hope has the nation when corruptible people have taken us to new lows. Both Oakshott and Windsor must have deliberately turned a blind eye to all the deceit due to their hatred of the nationals. This puts them on the same level as the Government. Hopefully the family man Abbott can restore some credibility to an otherwise disgusting Parliament.

Well first lets be honest thinking other than Luciferase and Lexi would say something positive about Labor bars further search for answers.
Lexi IF the senate is at risk , and it may be, we are dead!
Only three greens are at risk this time a round.
Remember the night before Kevin 07 won?
You held fears,I assured you, we would win.
POLLING TOLD ME.
Luciferase I fear you, as much as Gillard.
See our Carbon tax is HISTORIC! brilliant, it needs only rushing to a TRADING SCHEME ASAP.
NBN the very same,one day conservatives will sprook its nation building out comes.
Pensions are historical high,the BATTLERS are benefiting more than under past ALP governments.
Have you read the link? do you see Gillard ever winning an election? is it time for the ALP to lie down and die?
Do we concede defeat, tell our selfs we can win on IR next time and be lead by an unwanted woman to our death?
Is any one but Labor able to pick up our bones and start again?
Luciferase/Lexi I have lived at the feet of power brokers, think *still* Howe's,Shorten, Conroy, aging Big Bill Ludwig are HERO'S.
But they got it wrong!
They, the first three, have rolls to play in my party, or it dies, my union or it too shrinks without Howe's.
But as we talk of rebuilding we too destroy my party.
We can not fill our branches we can not grow, even maintain our numbers.
BECAUSE WE TELL MEMBERS they do not matter power is not for them opinions are not for them.
Kevin Rudd had faults and enemy's, he fell by in part his own hand.
HE as I do still, thinks the ALP should be a party of the people not just a union trolley lead by the few.
In truth Unionism too must continue to evolve follow and service its members and sometimes that takes confrontation with governments of every color.

The way to hand Abbott the senate is for Labor to oppose the abolition of the carbon and mining taxes. It's a great chance to flush the greens out of power in one fell swoop.